Eliminate MQ

[Jimjam]

Teal solved it

 

by patching out the humans

[Pulgasari]

wtb Sorrowsong Boots!

[magnetaress]

they dont kill the bots on the fourms why u thunik they gunna kill them in gaems

[cd288]

MQ is classic. Go on allakhazam and you can find plenty of posts on quests talking about or requesting MQs from the classic era.

Also, as an aside and a response to the other comment, the first EQ rules were put in place less than a year after launch.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

MQ is classic. Go on allakhazam and you can find plenty of posts on quests talking about or requesting MQs from the classic era.

Also, as an aside and a response to the other comment, the first EQ rules were put in place less than a year after launch.

There are obviously multiple definitions of classic. Was MQing done at all in classic? 100%!

But did most players even know MQing was a thing in classic? Absolutely not! Look, I don't think the majority even read sites like Allakhazam: I think most saw them as the equivalent of reading the cheat guide (remember the entire idea of a MMOG was completely new; most weren't MUD players).

Like so many things here, it just boils down to re-creating classic mechanics vs. trying to actually recreate the game from '99-'01, and the P99 folks have all but given up on the latter.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are obviously multiple definitions of classic. Was MQing done at all in classic? 100%!

But did most players even know MQing was a thing in classic? Absolutely not! Look, I don't think the majority even read sites like Allakhazam: I think most saw them as the equivalent of reading the cheat guide (remember the entire idea of a MMOG was completely new; most weren't MUD players).

Like so many things here, it just boils down to re-creating classic mechanics vs. trying to actually recreate the game from '99-'01, and the P99 folks have all but given up on the latter.

Again, your opinion doesn't matter unless you can back it up with evidence. The only evidence we have is that people were clearly MQing in the classic era. As a result, MQs remain unchanged. If you believe it's so completely obvious that the vast majority of people didn't know how to MQ then surely there should be evidence out there to back it up.

Also, LOL you don't think most people knew and read Allakhazam and sites like that once they came out? Now I can't take any of your arguments seriously because this is just so incorrect haha...no one viewed those sites as "cheating"

[fortior]

All of this is caused by p99 being stuck in velious, in real life people didn’t have the time to sit around maxing in era loot before the next expansion hit

[cd288]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of this is caused by p99 being stuck in velious, in real life people didn’t have the time to sit around maxing in era loot before the next expansion hit

Fair. There was invevitably a subset of players behind the curve who would get their shot at that loot when the next expansion came out and the upper tier moved on

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of this is caused by p99 being stuck in velious, in real life people didn’t have the time to sit around maxing in era loot before the next expansion hit

Constant expansions is not the answer, it destroys the game world. The problem continues to exist regardless of era anyway, the "important NPC's" to permacamp just shifts.

[Zuranthium]

MQing was not known by most people during classic. There absolutely is evidence to back it up too, like all of the forum posts and quest/item writeups that existed. Not to mention those of us who played back then and have said it wasn't known.

Regarding EQ websites, people of course knew about the major ones, but most people weren't able to be on the internet at work, and then when they came home from work to play the game, they couldn't be on EQ and a website at the same time. EQ took up the entire screen back then and there was no way to switch to the desktop (not to mention the extra lag even if you could do both at the same time). People were mainly only visiting EQ websites when the game was down.