Bard swarm kiting or zone disruption?

[WarpathEQ]

The change hasn't gone into effect yet until midnight tonight (turning over into tomorrow).

And it doesn't matter if others are in zone or approve of it. The rule change specifically stated that CSR will be proactively addressing these circumstances not reactively (i.e. waiting for petition). As it is their viewpoint that the very presence or possibility of swarming may prevent people from coming to the zone. So even if you are 1 of 1 in the zone, swarming is still punishable in that instance as it may disrupt the zone by disincentivizing people to go there.

[Eisai]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The change hasn't gone into effect yet until midnight tonight (turning over into tomorrow).

And it doesn't matter if others are in zone or approve of it. The rule change specifically stated that CSR will be proactively addressing these circumstances not reactively (i.e. waiting for petition). As it is their viewpoint that the very presence or possibility of swarming may prevent people from coming to the zone. So even if you are 1 of 1 in the zone, swarming is still punishable in that instance as it may disrupt the zone by disincentivizing people to go there.

This is the word.

[Hannibal]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The change hasn't gone into effect yet until midnight tonight (turning over into tomorrow).

And it doesn't matter if others are in zone or approve of it. The rule change specifically stated that CSR will be proactively addressing these circumstances not reactively (i.e. waiting for petition). As it is their viewpoint that the very presence or possibility of swarming may prevent people from coming to the zone. So even if you are 1 of 1 in the zone, swarming is still punishable in that instance as it may disrupt the zone by disincentivizing people to go there.

Some of these zones don't seem like a CSR will tag you though. Like kiting in Fear to get a single mob etc, since there is almost never anyone there anywho. Our CSRs are very big on communicating. Every time I have run afoul of something they've been super kind about it. I don't think you need to fear being alone and kiting if you're being responsible and dropping the kite the moment others appear in zone.

My wife and I were running a duo in Hate and a mini popped. We were unaware you had to leave and come back before killing again. The CSR let us know and we just chilled until a guild came and dropped the mini before going back to our duo. Easy wins.

[Ciderpress]

YES! Hahahah finally.

Suck a D bards.

[Eisai]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

YES! Hahahah finally.

Suck a D bards.

You're so fuggin hot when you talk talk dirty

[Ciderpress]

You can't edit posts in R&F. It's so all the hilarious ill-considered drunken rage posts can be preserved in their original mint condition.

[Eisai]

I love this forum.

[Talerain]

I have a question about swarming in Velk. For example, Frenzied group trains entrance and bard picks up all the mobs and starts to snare them around for entrance group rather than causing a wipe or our group from being disrupted. Is it the AOE Damage portion that is causing issues, the repetitive behavior mentioned in CoM or something else?

In the scenario above, I have several options:
Always play snare song run in circles:
1) combine with melee dps buffs to let melee kill faster
2) combine with an aoe DOT and melee dps to slowly kill things and supply group with dmg buffs
3) only play aoe dots while melee kill
4) have person root individually, play aoe dps songs on top of them while they can't hit you while you are no longer swarming but still snaring.

Which of these is bannable?

Keep in mind that it is never the intent to swarm kite in the zone but if shit hits the fan why would it not be considered an option for a "group" to handle it how they deem fit?

[Eisai]

I hope all of them are okay. I'd hate for them to make a rule that disrupts group play. Might as well can enchanter from aoe mez.

I really see the rule as "don't monopolize a zone" which is just playnice/"don't be a dick" which has always been a rule.

Treat it how the court system defines pornography: I'll know it when i see it

[Duik]

So a bard swarming and NOT damaging it to CC is still not OK? Or is it.

Letting them do that would allow them/the group to still make use of that good strat (from an example above). Same with training in the various planes (fear?) Start dotting etc and it breaks the rules.

I cant believe this needed to be policed in the first place. Actually I can.
Boredom has set in.
Which lead to entitlement.
If I can, I will.

Maybe im missing something.