I was wrong about Pantheon.

[jolanar]

Originally Posted by onmove_broke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So it follows the same formula of killing a rat, then moving to the next zone to kill a bigger rat, then moving to the next zone and killing a bigger rat. Gonna be a pass for me

Have... have you ever played Everquest?

[shovelquest]

I love killing rats.

I dislike killing soul gods from the 10th ring of eldon right outside the farmers fence.

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You almos got a whoah out of me, until I realized we were wearing converse, and the kids today are wearing crocks.

You're wrong.

You're wrong! What we did to TTRPGs was fucking AWESOME and idiots have tried to follow our generation and failed every time.

It's like, you're saying 90s anime ruined anime, because the anime in 2020 sucks.

NO!

That's just classic wokie brainwashing.

"we're all immigrants"

shut the f up no we aren't some of us are pioneers.

That's just your brain protecting you from the truth.

we're more like those light up shoes from the 90s and WoW was those shoes with half a rollerblade in the heel that went downhill straight into hell.

Brad's ideas... like his unrealistic plan for the paladin epic that involved mostly puzzles n shit, like someone had to explain to him the players are shit and are going to ruin it, HE was wearing the fuckin converses, not us.

dude was a dreamer
"Fuck gamers, acquire dirt bikes" - Brad probably.

[shovelquest]

his puzzle was so good that i'd die on hamburger hill defending it literally with someone who's still doing that quest regularly 25 years later.

my brain is protecting me from these self hating KGB communist ideas is what it's protecting me from.

[Eisai]

This is pretty stupid. When an artist creates something it is never intended to be universally enjoyed by all living creatures. Catering to the whims of every potential subscriber is how you alienate the real fans of your work. That is what turns art into muted gray globs of shyte. Do you really think that the solution to solving the Coke v. Pepsi debate is to simply mix the two together? Everquest was great because it was fucking hard! They designed encounters with the literal intent that they could never be conquered. The masochists that enjoyed the pain of five hour corpse runs at midnight on a schoolnight are the ones still here. This is the same reason this project chooses to replicate that piece of art instead of reimagining it.

The willingness for people to cooperate is directly proportionate to the difficulty level of the task. When you allow someone to alter your vision to bring it in line with their own you are no longer making art. Guess you just plan to make money selling turd burgers to morons so you can buy someone else's art for your mansion wall?

I like a grand array of completely different art styles and many of them are fusions and alterations of other styles but why would you ever want to destroy something you didn't create just because it doesn't speak to you? If you don't like it just turn the page until you find something you do like.

(Did you really just read that crap? Oh man, and now you're going to quote it and reply like it wasn't a pile of bullshit..)

You win.

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by Eisai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is pretty stupid.

that's why i like it here, best early 00s forum emulator on the entire internet.

Originally Posted by Eisai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you really think that the solution to solving the Coke v. Pepsi debate is to simply mix the two together?

a zero-sum debate, when you mix everything at the soda fountain together you're at least acknowledging the problem that's why the only other MMO i respect is Eve Online and think everything else is "bullshit derivative bullshit"
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they basically went "yeah we don't fucking know either" but they knew Elite, Traveller and Ultima Online were pretty dope so they made a sandbox and just let the idiots loose.

someone of us got lucky with the right combo and made a soda that was unique and the best thing we had tasted until then and some didn't understand the fucking assignment at all. but atleast someone attempted it and because they did game devs at GDC for the last like 20 years have always sucked eve's cock and given them awards while wishing they had the freedom to make a game like that

but the reality is mother fuckers got bills to pay and if a 3-yr old gets addicted to loot box mechanics oh well.

the actual problem is how you turn the artform of making a decent tasting suicide without drowning it out with too much dr.pepper
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into the freestyle coke machine that is not only "good" but able to appeal to more people is the string theory of gaming and you probably need 11 dimensions to actually make it work.

[Eisai]

With that machine you can still get a plain coke. Seems like the real problem with there alternate realities is that there isn't enough fodder in the one i choose to live in. Of course all of this will be solved in January when we get a fresh start. Plenty of lfg good times.

[Ekco]

>With that machine you can still get a plain coke.
that's the whole point though and why it works. something like 50+% of freestyle drinks are just normal coke orders.

coke - pve
cherry coke - pvp
vanilla coke - tradeskill industrialists
raspberry coke - marketeers
..etc..etc

freestyle machine has 127 flavors
eve had like 30 fucking emergent gameplay styles that rose up within the system, none of it possible without the half of the game just drinking coke in high sec mining rocks paying their monthly subscription

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that's IMO... the only progress made in the last 24 years in mmo game dev.

[Balur]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love killing rats.

I dislike killing soul gods from the 10th ring of eldon right outside the farmers fence.

The journey is always better than the destination. End game can't hope to compete with the feeling you get when you're grinding generic mobs on a fresh server with a group of guys you just met. That's all Pantheon has to get right.

[shovelquest]

might and magic 5 good.

zelda clones made by nintendo after the year 2000 bad.