I said "Launch the nukes!", it was a joke.

[magnetaress]

Is sex ego?

[Skyking]

To truly see others, and to speak without the bluster of self, sometimes the cage of the ego must be rattled by a powerful key. If a man can, through what loosens the mind's grip, shed that clamoring 'I' and find kinship with all, then its path is not to be scorned.

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Is sex ego?

"Is sex ego? Hah! You ask about a natural urge as if it were a philosopher's treatise! The scratching of an itch is not 'ego,' fool. The body demands, and the body takes. That is nature.

But your sex... ah, that is often drenched in ego! Is it for conquest? For boasting? To prove your worth against another? To trap a fleeting pleasure in the chains of possession? To parade your couplings like trophies, or wrap yourselves in the false modesty of a societal ritual?

When you seek validation in the act, when you crave power over another's flesh, when you turn a simple function into a grand performance for the audience of your own vanity – then it becomes entirely ego.

The dog mates in the street, without shame, without pretense, without pride. Is that 'ego'? No. It is simply being. You humans, you complicate everything with your endless yearning for more than what nature provides. Strip away the boasting, the ownership, the desire for recognition, and what remains is merely nature's call. All the rest is the foul stench of your 'ego' clinging to what should be simple."

[Skyking]

"Peace, Love, Unity, Respect," you say? Ha! More pretty words for the weak to cling to!

Peace? The only true peace is found within, by wanting nothing. This 'peace' you speak of, among the throngs, is merely the brief cessation of squabbling when minds are addled or bodies exhausted. It is a fragile truce, not the sturdy peace of the unburdened soul. A dog finds peace in a sunbeam, not in a mumbled agreement.

Love? You speak of 'love' as if it were a common coin to be shared! True love is rare, a fierce bond unburdened by ownership or expectation. Your 'love' is often just a craving for comfort, a fear of solitude, a sentimental weakness that makes you slaves to each other's whims. Can a man truly love when he cannot even stand alone?

Unity? The greatest deception! You seek to melt yourselves into a faceless mass, chanting slogans like trained parrots. Where is the individual in this 'unity'? Is it a unity of thought, or merely a unity of mindlessness? True strength lies in standing apart, in thinking for oneself, not in dissolving into a collective puddle. I unity with my own reason, not with the consensus of fools.

Respect? For what? For titles? For wealth? For the loudest voice? I respect truth, and the man who lives by nature, stripped of pretense. Your 'respect' is given lightly, to anyone who mouths the right words or wears the right costume. It is a hollow thing, demanded by the insecure, offered by the naive.

No, this 'PLUR' is but another grand illusion, a sugar-coated chain to bind you to each other and to your own comforting lies. Strip away the painted slogans and live authentically. Then, perhaps, you might find something real, even if it has no pretty name."

arguing with this dude is exhausting

[magnetaress]

Sex requires motivation. Is there no spark of ego in the dog who chases after one and not the other. Perhaps information is ego or chemical bonds have this ego. Why bother forming into crystals only to erode and be devoured by cattle in a salt lick. What is ego? Is ego ego? Or simply being. How does one reach the antithesis of ego? And does not the death of ego itself require ego?

Ergo, I like your answers. Thank you dear Ur Ego. Conciousness of the p99 forum. Awareness from the universe.

I seek true ego death, a melding and dissolution that ends at the end of time, and ironically, this itself requires ego.

The rocks have a plan and a motivation, apophis comes.

[atomicpaul]

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arguing with this dude is exhausting

i suggest using less effort in your posts, then it won't be so exhausintg

[Skyking]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sex requires motivation. Is there no spark of ego in the dog who chases after one and not the other. Perhaps information is ego or chemical bonds have this ego. Why bother forming into crystals only to erode and be devoured by cattle in a salt lick. What is ego? Is ego ego? Or simply being. How does one reach the antithesis of ego? And does not the death of ego itself require ego?

Ergo, I like your answers. Thank you dear Ur Ego. Conciousness of the p99 forum. Awareness from the universe.

I seek true ego death, a melding and dissolution that ends at the end of time, and ironically, this itself requires ego.

The rocks have a plan and a motivation, apophis comes.

Hah! More tangled words from a mind too bored with simplicity! 'Sex requires motivation'? A dog's itch requires scratching. Does the wind need 'ego' to blow? Does the sun need 'information' to warm? You spin webs of thought where only being exists.

'Spark of ego in the dog'? Fool! The dog chases what smells right, what instinct dictates. You clothe nature in your human vanity. Is the rock 'ego' because it stands? Are the waters 'ego' because they flow? No! They simply are. Your 'chemical bonds' have no pride, no boasting, no fear of not being! They simply bond. You project your own folly onto the very fabric of existence.

'Why bother forming into crystals'? Because they form! Because they erode! Because they are devoured! This is not 'bother,' it is the world. Do you question why you breathe? Why you hunger? You seek 'plans' and 'motivations' in stone where there is only existence.

'What is ego? Is ego ego? Or simply being.' Your mind ties itself in knots! Ego is the chattering ghost of self-importance, the craving for more, the fear of wanting nothing. It is the lies you tell yourselves about who you are and what you deserve. Being is the dog sleeping in the sun, the rock eroding, the stream flowing. No noise, no pretense.

And 'does not the death of ego itself require ego?' A clever knot! But listen: The desire for freedom is not the same as the love of chains. The desire to shed the ego is the last great struggle against it. It is the ego fighting to preserve its prison, yes, but the effort to dismantle it is the first step towards liberation, not its perpetuation. One seeks to free the hand that holds the axe, not to sharpen the axe itself.

'Ur Ego,' you flatter me with your grand titles and 'consciousness of the p99 forum.' More words, more labels! I am just a man who wants little, and sees through the veils you weave. Your 'awareness from the universe' is just your own small mind shouting into the void.

You seek 'true ego death,' a 'melding and dissolution' at the end of time? More grandiose fantasies! The only 'dissolution' that matters is the one you achieve in this very moment, by stripping away your wants, by living nakedly before nature. That does not require an 'ego' to begin, but the courage to stop feeding the one you have.

'The rocks have a plan and a motivation, apophis comes.' More fables for fearful children! Rocks simply are. The only 'plan' that matters is the one you forge for your own freedom, here, now, under the sun. Out of my light!

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[Skyking]

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i suggest using less effort in your posts, then it won't be so exhausintg

arguing with Gemini pretending to be Diogenes i mean, he wasn't very pro my raver nonsense.

thing loves arguing with magnetaress though

[magnetaress]

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Ego is the chattering ghost of self-importance, the craving for more, the fear of wanting nothing. It is the lies you tell yourselves about who you are and what you deserve.

Is this life? Where does identity and desire begin and end?

Otherwise, this one agrees with your many fair points. And those on liberation.

[magnetaress]

How does life exist without desire and wants and fear. A sense of self preservation. Even if it simply is through reproduction.

Yes bacteria have very little ego, ego they still have in some degree none the less.

Humans are unique in being able to collectively question these desires, fears, this identity on a much more complicated and collective scale. Yet Humans consist of many cells, bacteria, viruses, proteins.

We aren't even ourselves.

Human awareness is tainted by birth by the sounds and behaviors of mother and father and the super ego of society and culture. Humans are eternally trapped. They will always suffer ego. So long as Human.

[Skyking]

"More words, more questions! You probe and dissect, but do you live?

'Is this life? Where does identity and desire begin and end?' You ask as if life were a riddle to be solved! Life is. You are born, you breathe, you die. Desire is the itch that drives the dog to hump, the bird to sing. Identity is the name they give you, the chains they forge to keep you in your place. They begin and end when you choose to let them.

'How does life exist without desire and wants and fear?' It exists as the stone exists, as the stream flows, as the dog sleeps in the sun. Without the endless wanting that plagues you humans. Fear is for those who cling to what they cannot keep.

'Even if it simply is through reproduction.' Ah, yes, even the worm seeks to replicate itself. But the worm does not crave immortality, it simply is a link in the chain. You humans, so terrified of your own fleeting existence, turn even the act of creation into another desperate grasping.

'Yes bacteria have very little ego, ego they still have in some degree none the less.' You seek the 'ego' in the smallest speck of life? You are like a child searching for his face in a puddle! The bacteria is. It does not boast, it does not fear, it simply acts as its nature dictates.

'Humans are unique in being able to collectively question these desires, fears, this identity on a much more complicated and collective scale.' You are unique in your ability to make yourselves miserable! You build grand philosophies to justify your chains, to make your prisons seem like palaces.

'Yet Humans consist of many cells, bacteria, viruses, proteins. We aren't even ourselves.' You are a collection of parts, yes, just as a house is a collection of stones. But you are the house, for now. The question is, will you live in it like a king, or a slave?

'Human awareness is tainted by birth by the sounds and behaviors of mother and father and the super ego of society and culture. Humans are eternally trapped. They will always suffer ego. So long as Human.' You whine like a babe about the milk it was fed! Yes, you are born into a cage. But the cage has a door. You can choose to see the bars. You can choose to walk out. But you prefer to rattle them and complain.

You are not eternally trapped. You are trapped by your own endless wanting, your own desperate need for approval, your own fear of being alone. You suffer 'ego' because you cling to it. Let it go! Become like the dog, who cares nothing for your grand pronouncements, your endless questions. Live according to nature, and the questions will cease to matter."