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Old 11-10-2025, 01:27 AM
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Very bad news for Red99, with custom exp gains and no item loot they are crippled with 400 player count. How PvP going to go with THAT low of pop??

For reals, if I play p99 again would be red tho
No one cares about Red.
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Old 11-10-2025, 08:39 AM
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Funky that this is real. It's just a dumb old game, really.

The fact that every fan of the game that had tinkered around with new content, is now being slapped like as if they suck and have no value to the company, is a fantastic tell about the company we are dealing with.

It's not a gaming company, it's a gaming IP holding company with narrow restrictions on what can be done and when.

They didn't say anything about allowing server xfers.
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Old 11-10-2025, 12:34 PM
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It's not a gaming company, it's a gaming IP holding company with narrow restrictions on what can be done and when.
If it's an IP-holding company, I don't understand why they haven't done anything new with the IP in going on 20 years. THJ and all these fans servers are a clear signal there's an un-served market here.
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Old 11-10-2025, 01:00 PM
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It looks like its a video game "marketing company". So they are not about doing anything new, just marketing and selling their dead products?

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Old 11-10-2025, 01:59 PM
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If it's an IP-holding company, I don't understand why they haven't done anything new with the IP in going on 20 years. THJ and all these fans servers are a clear signal there's an un-served market here.
They are about to release their 32nd expansion to that IP, so I don't think it's accurate to say they haven't done anything.

It seems clear their business plan revolves around making money off Live (specifically off the "whales" that pay extra). Everything else in their business (including allowing classic emulators) is simply a means to drive more people toward the money-making engine that is live.

You can debate whether they could make more money with a different plan, but it's wrong to suggest they're not still trying to cash in.

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Very bad news for Red99, with custom exp gains and no item loot they are crippled with 400 player count.
I don't think that published emulator agreement is P99's agreement. It's widely believed (though I haven't seen it confirmed) that this is the P99 agreement: https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...19107.53.4.pdf
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Old 11-10-2025, 02:05 PM
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You can debate whether they could make more money with a different plan, but it's wrong to suggest they're not still trying to cash in.
Nobody said they weren't trying to exploit the IP to make cash.

We said they were not trying to do anything NEW you god damn donkey.
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Old 11-10-2025, 02:09 PM
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Nobody said they weren't trying to exploit the IP to make cash.
Did you even read what I quoted?

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I don't understand why they haven't done anything new with the IP in going on 20 years.
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We said they were not trying to do anything NEW you god damn donkey
Did you even read my response to that quote (about the NEW EQ expansion)?
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Old 11-10-2025, 03:04 PM
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We said they were not trying to do anything NEW
Idk in that second to last Xpac they made Dark Elf Rangers an option
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Old 11-10-2025, 03:07 PM
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Did you even read what I quoted?
Did YOU?!

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I don't understand why they haven't done anything new with the IP in going on 20 years.
I don't think it's accurate to say they haven't done anything.
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Old 11-10-2025, 03:32 PM
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they actually did better work with the poFear/Hate/Velious/Kunark/Luclin reboots than the last couple expansions under SOE when they still had it in pre 2015,

Veil of Alaris was literally some luclin 2.0 cats on the moon dumb shit but instead of cats it was aliens, after "the company" was sold and rebranded someone not retarded said yeah uhh let's just reboot the expansions that were actually good instead for 5 years, think those were the last ones headed by the last of the old guard in management positions before they moved over to blizzard not 100% on that though but the company now is def back to making complete bullshit expansion wise
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