Red99 Enchanters: Let them CHARM players IMO - Page 4

dusk883 · #31 08-25-2011, 05:01 PM

noooobody was screaming OP when Charming was live for the first year... noone. The whines came later. Now it's just built in, IMO.

It's often "OP" when your class can't do it is my take.

Crenshinabon · #32 08-25-2011, 05:11 PM

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noooobody was screaming OP when Charming was live for the first year... noone. The whines came later. Now it's just built in, IMO.

It's often "OP" when your class can't do it is my take.

All I remember is playing classic and being in Oasis when I met my first pvp encounter with a charming enchanter. Like three fights in a row first thing he did was charm me and have me attack a deepwater and I would get owned. I also remember thinking that was the most OP thing I have ever seen. I made an enchanter to have them take out charm on players not even a week later. I played on RZ. I also felt the same with fear making me run around for 10+ seconds and me just getting owned the whole time I could do nothing. These were needed changes.

Yukahwa · #33 08-25-2011, 05:15 PM

Yep. Its not an option.

dusk883 · #34 08-25-2011, 05:15 PM

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Yep. Its not an option.

Rogean's post in the thread contradicts this theory you have.

raptorak · #35 08-25-2011, 05:24 PM

charm could be cool if it worked for only a few seconds, same with fear. blindness was nasty but hardly ever landed if i recall.

beentheredonethat · #36 08-25-2011, 06:22 PM

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All I remember is playing classic and being in Oasis when I met my first pvp encounter with a charming enchanter. Like three fights in a row first thing he did was charm me and have me attack a deepwater and I would get owned. I also remember thinking that was the most OP thing I have ever seen. I made an enchanter to have them take out charm on players not even a week later. I played on RZ. I also felt the same with fear making me run around for 10+ seconds and me just getting owned the whole time I could do nothing. These were needed changes.

I remember being a monk and getting rooted and there was nothing I could do. I would just have to stand and take it until "Loading please wait...". This was a permanent state for me at some points.

If they made duration of all of those spells in pvp much shorter (like 10 seconds) that would probably make it all right. And maybe a limit on number of times one can be feared, charmed, rooted, snared per fight or something... if we are going to go down the route of balancing a game that was never intended to be balanced.

lethdar · #37 08-25-2011, 06:34 PM

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I remember being a monk and getting rooted and there was nothing I could do. I would just have to stand and take it until "Loading please wait...". This was a permanent state for me at some points.

If they made duration of all of those spells in pvp much shorter (like 10 seconds) that would probably make it all right. And maybe a limit on number of times one can be feared, charmed, rooted, snared per fight or something... if we are going to go down the route of balancing a game that was never intended to be balanced.

Are you wehrmacht?

ROOTED, NOTHING I CAN DO.

Yukahwa · #38 08-25-2011, 06:40 PM

Just saw rogeans post thanks for pointing that out.

Its easy to run away from guards after having them murder the player.

Its heavily exploitable but if you want it in the game, go for it I will enjoy it for sure.

beentheredonethat · #39 08-25-2011, 06:48 PM

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Are you wehrmacht?

ROOTED, NOTHING I CAN DO.

unrelated to wehrmacht

TR Spokesman · #40 08-25-2011, 07:40 PM

why play a class when 1 of your biggest abilities is removed due to pvp, when pvp is the main point of the server.

Necro without fear is probably worse than enchanter without charm tho imo. It's not like it's impossible to equip resist gear.

also if it's team based pvp, then people would be more apt to build a more reliable team.

Or I suppose people could QQ like this is WoW and have every class nerfed to crap.

"OMG bard song is so OP, I can't land a nuke... Nearf plaeayz!: