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Aadill · #31 10-20-2011, 08:18 PM

Primadonna vs Primadonna

Macken · #32 10-20-2011, 08:41 PM

The following Play is written with an incomplete understanding of the +/- 8 dynamic pvp system. If this is not how it is, sue me.

Softcore defies everyone's expectations and makes it to 50. The +/- 8 dynamic pvp system has been kind to our inexperienced adventurer. He was right. If only himself, he could count at least one person who was glad of the anti-pvp ruleset on a pvp server.

Softcore is a boyscout, and as such he is usually prepared. He has no problem making his way down to the Manastone camp in Lower Guk. It is off hours and luckily he is alone in the zone. Not that it mattered. Softcore was more like hardcore now. You see, he had finally reached the top levels and he really knew how to pvp. Things were going well, 3 spawns now and one was even an evil eye. No luck on his precious though, but this was to be expected.

Suddenly there are 4 players in zone. He can't tell what level they are. Being experienced, he knows he has to get ready in case. He begins to run down his pre-battle ritual. Everything is in place and he is ready. Pop. It's the evil eye.

Oh Joy! Softcore begins to take it down. He has it at 55% when the two nukes land. He has been ks'd but he will make them pay. He begins the attack, but something is wrong. He cannot attack. They must be 51 or lower. He then takes stock of the situation and realizes it's a Mage, Wizard, SK and cleric. All green.

He has been foiled by his preferred pvp system and to make matters worse, they link a manastone. Being experienced he immediately suspects a troll. But it doesn't matter, they won, he lost. If only he had some recourse, some way to pvp them on a pvp server. Something Macken used to say... what was it.? Oh yeah, "getting griefed by greenie". Was this what he meant? Softcore cannot be sure. But one thing is for sure. He was defeated by greenie and sitting around being taunted by these noobs was a waste of time. Maybe the mob who drops the WGN is up just down the hallway there.

Softcore ignores the /rude emotes from the greenies. They bother him, but he puts it out of his mind. If he lets it bother him, somehow he will have to admit inside that Macken was right.

He gets to his chosen camp just down the hallway and begins to do work. To his surprise the named is up. Maybe he will get lucky and all will work out as it is supposed to. He agroes 2. It's ok. After all he is experienced. He decides to work on the named first. After all, that's what he is here for.

The named is low, but he will not run. His buddy is beside him reinforcing the fight. Softcore is at 65% because they both are tag-teaming him.

Boom Boom Pow.

Softcore is dead. How could this be? The loading screen is frozen. Everything seems to be going in slow motion as he focuses on the chat window. 2 nukes and 1 HT. All 3 simultaneous.

But that isn't fair! How could this have happened? Protecting greenie was supposed to be noble and give Softcore a leg up at the same time. How could it have come to this? Now that Softcore is top dog, things should naturally bode well for those who are stronger, not weaker. This is not the order of things. He has invested too much time, and weathered too many storms.

It suddenly dawns on him. Macken WAS right. Macken used to say the weirdest things. Things Softcore never understood or could comprehend. But greenie griefing red was definately something Softcore remembers. Maybe Macken posted something on how to beat these guys.

Softcore logs gearless. He has to. He must check the forums for wisdom.

Overlord Lucan D'lere · #33 10-20-2011, 08:47 PM

Dynamic range is not a bad idea, its the worse idea in the history of any game and that includes tetris.

mimixownzall · #34 10-21-2011, 12:17 AM

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adding a los check at end of cast...

Actually this is a bug. It isn't classic and didn't work that way in PvP on live. There actually was no LoS check at all on detrimental and non-detrimental spells.

mimixownzall · #35 10-21-2011, 12:39 AM

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because:

4. It is unwanted by over 50% of the community.

Really? I think you are the only person who flat-out doesn't want it and thinks it is stupid. The other people who bitch about it don't really say whether they want it or not or if its a good or bad idea; they just think it is a time sink and want the server to launch.

Your pissing and moaning would rage even harder the first time that some guy is running around with his level 39-41 cleric buddy landing complete heals while you stand there not able to do anything about it.

The no-boxing rules and ip limitations will help, but there are still people out there who would make that cleric to run around and watch his friend dominate people. I was planning on doing it for a RL friend until they came up with the dynamic system.

Softcore PK · #36 10-21-2011, 12:46 AM

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play

That was very good, Macken! You do have the system a little confused, though. Green players would not be able to attack outside their range unless they had healed someone in range. And in this case, I believe the higher level oor character would have to engage first.

Even so, the scenario where I'm KSed out of a manastone could happen. And it really might. But I don't see a need to change the server ruleset, or a need to make guk FFA over this. FFA lowbie exp zones penalize the lowbies and protect the hardcore max level powercampers. Said powercampers shouldn't need protection.

Macken · #37 10-21-2011, 01:09 AM

Good to know.

Still can't be letting greenie get off like that for stealin' yo manastone.

Plus, any situation where i have to dps down a meaty tank watching mr 41 greenie out of the corner of my eye waiting on his inevitable heal only to lose to them both is one i will curse you over.

Had i had the chance to fight them both fairly, without your unfair pvp rules, i could have won per se.

Your meddlesome tweaks are ruining my and other's immersion. It is not fair to give the advantage to those of lower level. If you think this will not have consequences, you are injudicious.

Get the Fed out of the Treasury and get Softcore out of the Round Table.

Let freedom, democracy and free trade pvp reign and down with the conspirators.

Softcore PK · #38 10-21-2011, 01:18 AM

Most people played with a limited level range, Macken. I never once experienced anything like that manastone KS, in all my years of playing on VZ. These hypothetical situations of yours are exactly that: hypothetical.

Softcore PK · #39 10-21-2011, 01:22 AM

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Get the Fed out of the Treasury

You also don't know what you're talking about here :P

Macken · #40 10-21-2011, 01:40 AM

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I never once experienced anything like that manastone KS, in all my years of playing on VZ. These hypothetical situations of yours are exactly that: hypothetical.

Happened to me and others on VZTZ. Just because you seem to lack imagination does not mean the rest of the community will.

In Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Bahrain, Egypt, Somalia or Yemen they do not give you a pass because you are too low level. The medics get attacked before they heal, not just after.

Before AND after. All levels. Circular. All things good.