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Old 04-15-2010, 01:32 PM
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I have not found getting a group (Rogue) to be all that hard. In off peak times, usually it's difficult because everyone is a solo class. I've just made it a point to stick around areas that group dynamics are needed/wanted.
Bhutt's not very effective DPS in my groups when I tank, because I like to rotate around the mob so he never has a clean backstab shot and has to keep re-positioning, just to piss him off. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 04-15-2010, 01:41 PM
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Bhutt's not very effective DPS in my groups when I tank, because I like to rotate around the mob so he never has a clean backstab shot and has to keep re-positioning, just to piss him off. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
True story. But, thankfully Yendor only wears cloth armor (if you consider a leopard skin g-string and a sailor hat armor) so he tends to go down faster then a prom queen in Texas. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 04-15-2010, 02:25 PM
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I think alot of you would be surprised to know that at lvl 48 and under, Druid and Wizard Damage:Mana ratio on DD is exactly the same! Only at 49 is it Wiz 2.8 Dru 2.45. BTW Druids get the 2nd biggest nukes in the game!

If you add in the small amount of + damage from strength buffs + the damage from damage shields (Yes wizzies get a damage shield but it is far inferior) It could be argued that Druids out DPS wizzies in grps! Add in the druid dot that is irresistible to anything within 8 levels (live) and has a 3.2 D:M at lvl 44 and you have a convincing argument!

If wizzies have harvest (self mana regen) on p99 that is a factor but If I remember on live it was like a bub of mana every 10 minutes and took a spell slot (I am probably wrong on these numbers), not sure that would outdo thorns.

So when I see peeps post Druids as sort of DPS and Wizzies as DPS, I have to chuckle.

Lets not even get to the fact that Druids have heals!

In my opinion the 4 best spells on P99 are Clarity, CHeal, SoW and Pack Regen, of which druids get 2.

Which class to play on p99? C'MON MAN!
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Old 04-15-2010, 02:50 PM
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I love druids too - great soloing capability and good in groups. But I think this is kind of stretching it...

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In my opinion the 4 best spells on P99 are Clarity, CHeal, SoW and Pack Regen, of which druids get 2.
Clarity isn't even in the top 5 of an Enchanter's "best spells", much less one of the best spells in the game. Sure, we can argue about what "best spell" even means, but I don't think any of the 4 you listed would be in most people's top 10 (with the possible exception of complete heal).

Just my 2 cents.
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Old 04-15-2010, 02:55 PM
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I think alot of you would be surprised to know that at lvl 48 and under, Druid and Wizard Damage:Mana ratio on DD is exactly the same! Only at 49 is it Wiz 2.8 Dru 2.45. BTW Druids get the 2nd biggest nukes in the game!

If you add in the small amount of + damage from strength buffs + the damage from damage shields (Yes wizzies get a damage shield but it is far inferior) It could be argued that Druids out DPS wizzies in grps! Add in the druid dot that is irresistible to anything within 8 levels (live) and has a 3.2 D:M at lvl 44 and you have a convincing argument!

If wizzies have harvest (self mana regen) on p99 that is a factor but If I remember on live it was like a bub of mana every 10 minutes and took a spell slot (I am probably wrong on these numbers), not sure that would outdo thorns.

So when I see peeps post Druids as sort of DPS and Wizzies as DPS, I have to chuckle.

Lets not even get to the fact that Druids have heals!

In my opinion the 4 best spells on P99 are Clarity, CHeal, SoW and Pack Regen, of which druids get 2.

Which class to play on p99? C'MON MAN!
Ok,I am going to compare a few levels of spells between druids and wizards just to show this is complete horseshit. I would start at level 24 because that is when new spell levels sync up, but druids don't get a new single DD every level. So I will begin at 29.
Level 29
Druid- Combust Fire based DD (171-182 damage) 110
182/110=1.6545
Wiz- Inferno Shock Fire based DD (237-250 damage) 135
250/135=1.8518
Ok so already wrong.....

Level 39
Druid- Firestrike Fire based DD (282-302 damage) 155
302/155=1.9483
Wiz- Lightning Shock Magic based DD (381-405 damage) 180
405/180= 2.25
Wronger.....

Level 44
Druid- Calefaction Fire based DD (444-450 damage) 250
450/250=1.8
Wiz- Confaguration Fire based DD (606-625 damage) 250
625/250=2.5
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Theory debunked, thanks for playing though. Research is kind of important.
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Old 04-15-2010, 02:58 PM
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Even back in EQ Classic Rangers had a heck of a time getting work.. When I first started to play I thought LFG was some kinda exclusive Ranger only guild.
I was a ranger. I played between march and june 1999. I always found someone to group with.

Maybe when the servers get top heavy, but until then it's fine.

Debating which class to play now is kind of premature imho.

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Old 04-15-2010, 02:59 PM
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and lets not forget the casting time between druids < wizards on DD-spells
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Old 04-15-2010, 03:11 PM
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I love druids too - great soloing capability and good in groups. But I think this is kind of stretching it...



Clarity isn't even in the top 5 of an Enchanter's "best spells", much less one of the best spells in the game. Sure, we can argue about what "best spell" even means, but I don't think any of the 4 you listed would be in most people's top 10 (with the possible exception of complete heal).

Just my 2 cents.
Clarity and chloro are essential for raids to cut downtime.

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I was a ranger. I played between march and june 1999. I always found someone to group with.
In 1999 people barely knew the game, let alone the "rangers are gimped" meme.
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Old 04-15-2010, 03:33 PM
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and lets not forget the casting time between druids < wizards on DD-spells
can you explain?

all this talk about druid and wiz is making me consider a different main. are wizzies really that useless?

my wiz is 23.

mage/nec solo better than wiz

now people are saying druids are on par with wizards? wtf is my wiz going to be good for then [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 04-15-2010, 03:33 PM
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Ok,I am going to compare a few levels of spells between druids and wizards just to show this is complete horseshit. I would start at level 24 because that is when new spell levels sync up, but druids don't get a new single DD every level. So I will begin at 29.
Level 29
Druid- Combust Fire based DD (171-182 damage) 110
182/110=1.6545
Wiz- Inferno Shock Fire based DD (237-250 damage) 135
250/135=1.8518
Ok so already wrong.....

Level 39
Druid- Firestrike Fire based DD (282-302 damage) 155
302/155=1.9483
Wiz- Lightning Shock Magic based DD (381-405 damage) 180
405/180= 2.25
Wronger.....

Level 44
Druid- Calefaction Fire based DD (444-450 damage) 250
450/250=1.8
Wiz- Confaguration Fire based DD (606-625 damage) 250
625/250=2.5
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Theory debunked, thanks for playing though. Research is kind of important.
You have a very good point, so For all the heals and sow and regen Druids get, our spells are about 12% less mana efficient throughout.

Califaction is not a fair compare, it is a specialty quick cast, but hey you know it all right?

My theory is that the damage sheild and Str outweigh this 12% so calm down bunkie, you aint disproved a thing.

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