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[Cwall]

you're missing the point

bluebie fuck

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's an issue of consistency. Showboating a bunch of bans, and in the same breath claiming staunch adherence to a rule against discussing bans is inconsistent at best. Raising discussions about valid issues is healthy, and I'm amused that one person who is so in favor of free speech on the internet is trying to pretend that doing so doesn't help anything and even goes so far as to advocate arbitrary redefinitions of fairness.

That's just stuffing your head in the sand in blind fanaticism.

I'm amused that you even drew that comparison. I know how intelligent you are, and you know what I'm saying.

It's not a matter of the issues raised. It's a matter of perception and using the influence that you have in a more constructive way.

[Uberom]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's an issue of consistency. Showboating a bunch of bans, and in the same breath claiming staunch adherence to a rule against discussing bans is inconsistent at best. Raising discussions about valid issues is healthy, and I'm amused that one person who is so in favor of free speech on the internet is trying to pretend that doing so doesn't help anything and even goes so far as to advocate arbitrary redefinitions of fairness.

That's just stuffing your head in the sand in blind fanaticism.

Lol. Fuck you Uth. I've been calling this staff hypocritical since like, ohhhhhh I dunno......check my join date.

They are the reason my friends who played quit / RMT their account away.

Welcome to reality ...

INB4 "this is a private server, we do what we want etc etc blah blah"

[Torven]

If the GMs had just looked at that first encounter log and removed the Nagafen loot from Nihilum on the first kill, it would have sent a clear message that exploiting him would be a waste of time at best, without harming server competition/population.

Instead, GMs do their job one day out of the year and Holocaust rolled a 1. Too bad $1000/mo in Google ad revenue isn't enough to make you care about your server more than that.

What you fail to realize is that your own apathy and laziness created an atmosphere where people just assumed no punishment for exploiting would happen. When people post screenshots of their exploiting on this very forum, with encounter logs publicly available, and no punishment occurs, then you send a message that exploiting is OK.

Enjoy your PvE ghost town Nizzarr. Nobody is impressed by anything you do. You're an object of pity. If anybody in your life even loves you, then you are neglecting them at the very least.

[Juugox2]

server hasnt droped any bit since you guys left wah waahh wahhh gtfo

[visage]

Eat a dick!

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure what you call this, if not discussing disciplinary actions in public with everyone but the owners of the accounts, and bending your policies to incite drama. Officers names and guild affiliation were not secret or closely guarded information.

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Deleting this thread just shows that you know you're in the wrong. And you can't delete it from every offsite forum, so you should probably address this before you drive off more players than you already have with this decision.

Really?

This is coming from you?

[Woosa]

Yeah at this point its gone from genuine concern to childish ranting and finger pointing it seems.

[Nizzarr]

Originally Posted by Torven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the GMs had just looked at that first encounter log and removed the Nagafen loot from Nihilum on the first kill, it would have sent a clear message that exploiting him would be a waste of time at best, without harming server competition/population.

Instead, GMs do their job one day out of the year and Holocaust rolled a 1. Too bad $1000/mo in Google ad revenue isn't enough to make you care about your server more than that.

What you fail to realize is that your own apathy and laziness created an atmosphere where people just assumed no punishment for exploiting would happen. When people post screenshots of their exploiting on this very forum, with encounter logs publicly available, and no punishment occurs, then you send a message that exploiting is OK.

Enjoy your PvE ghost town Nizzarr. Nobody is impressed by anything you do. You're an object of pity. If anybody in your life even loves you, then you are neglecting them at the very least.

lots of butthurt in this post, almost as much as in your fohguild posts. almost.

Fact is, that one time you did kill nagafen; we choose to leave it up and wait for more people to show up because:

a) it was bug reported by me two-three weeks prior
b) we dont support exploiting raid mobs
c) Holocaust couldnt kill it without exploiting it, you guys are horrible at pve.

I'm surprised you guys opted to bug it out the week after -- you didnt think youd be watched? we saw you camp like 15 dudes in solb, were not that ignorant.

As soon as you cleared giants, we were already petitioning for GMs to go watch you guys -- thanks for the removal of variance, GMs knew exactly when to show up. We didnt put up a fight either, it was pretty funny watching you guys fuck yourself over.

TL;DR

You guys are fucking dumb. Get the fuck out.

[Rust1d?]

Seems like this server will suffer the same fate as VZTZ because of the player base (in this case it is Holocaust) cheating/exploiting, the people who run this server having a god complex and the rest of the community not helping.

Fact is the server population went from 600+ on day one to 130-150 during peak hours. It is only a matter of time before the population falls under 100.

I hear the "oh the server pop is fine with 150 on classic". Well I guess you do not care about Kunark or Velious because that will never happen with such a low population.

Gonna talk to Image and devnoob about making RED69 start with Kunark.