Wizard dps vs melee in groups?

[Lazortag]

The difference in DPS is extremely noticeable between rogues/monks and wizards (in exp groups). I'll group with pretty much any class combination since I'm not picky, but I would take a rogue over a wizard any day in my groups.

[godbox]

part of the issue is the insane twink lvl on 99 im surprised when a rogue doesnt have ragebringer post lvl 20 now and shocked when a monk doesnt have rbg/rbb fungi and adam/kd

[Nagash]

Comes Velious, show me a raid targeting giants or dragons turning down a wizard and I'll show you a bunch of fools.

[Flunklesnarkin]

wizards can group..


aoe burn?? not sure why more people don't do that in everquest


guess timing 4 or 5 aoe's can be tough stuff though >_>

[Splorf22]

Well on raids the math changes entirely, especially with Kunark mobs and their 32000 hp. Lure of Ice is 825 damage/320 mana/4.5 second cast time, which works out to 8000 damage in under a minute - 140 dps, and substantially more than any melee can put out even with discs. And Wizards are also extremely useful for mobilizing, and simply necessary for ports up to Sky/Hate.

Its just for XP groups that they suck. It used to be that Wizards could level up efficiently in AOE groups, but with the unstunnable wurms if you want to hit 60, you better be prepared to quad kite raptors . . . a lot.

Personally I tried a twink wizard, and just found them to be incredibly boring. Nuke/afk 3 minutes/repeat.

[Grozmok]

Originally Posted by Scavrefamn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

every time I check this thread, it makes me regret rolling Wizard even more.

Dude, just play what you want. Don't let the min/max power gamers get you down.

[kazroth]

Originally Posted by Grozmok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude, just play what you want. Don't let the min/max power gamers get you down.

I had a habit of doing this. I was always worried I wasn't "doing it right" for the longest time. Then I realized every time I followed the min/max strategy, I got bored, 'cuz I wasn't playing the class I really wanted to play. Just do what ya want and the game will be fun regardless!

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by Rais [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only reason why you roll a wizard in eq is for one of 2 reasons

A) You hate people and want to spend 90% of your time Quad Kiting/AoE groups
or
B) You just want to afk in groups and be the boss vs raid targets.

Wizards can do ok in groups, but there is a reason why you don't see wizards in every group. It wasn't till Sony made wizard nukes crit starting at lvl 1 did wizards even be on par with melee.

With the server deciding to cherry pick about letting people keep their keys soulbound, it effected Wizards/Druids in Sebilis/HS even more. Without them to evac groups out when shit hit the fan, groups had to depend on some other group to give up their camps and dungeon on crawl to your group and save you. It happened next to none on live servers unless it was guild members doing the saving and forced groups to decide to group a druid or wizard.

I remember getting ridiculous xp aoe as chanter with wizzies in Seb. What do you mean server deciding to cherry pick ?

[bulbousaur]

Seb/HS keys aren't soulbound?

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Ikonoclastia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember getting ridiculous xp aoe as chanter with wizzies in Seb. What do you mean server deciding to cherry pick ?

That's more difficult on this server because caster NPCs do not require LOS to finish a cast, only to begin the cast. Makes pulling a pack of casters MUCH more dangerous on this server than on Live.