Open Veeshan's Peak Raid - Phara Dar - Thursday Night

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Greeedy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe the PUG got Nexona to like 8% last night on second attempt?

The only reason they didnt stay for a third, which would have sealed the deal, was because there were about 30 TMO sitting outside VP waiting to zone in. They did not want to be trained or have to deal with that. Atleast most of them.

The other dragons both died last night on first attempts.

So what do you mean exactly when you say 'dragons that other guilds cant kill'. You mean that they cannot kill them because you will not let them without griefing. The question is - if they go to attempt them again, will they be harassed or not?

This is a great opportunity to set up something good for this server.

It means exactly what it means. There is no underlining meaning. Are you a woman?

Other guilds didn't kill those 2 dragons when they had time with no trains. Alarti said what he said (which I personally have no idea if that was TMOs official call).

However, me personally, all PvE EQ content is easy as hell.

[Greeedy]

Autotune, you are not dumb. Dont act like it.

What is implied by it is something indefinite - i.e., noone else can kill the dragon in general...hence it will always be there for TMO to get whenever they want. I am saying that simply isnt true unless you add in the fact that TMO has threatened to train anyone out of VP.

Ultimately I agree with you - the content itself is not overly difficult. That is also my point, however.

The dragon would be dead had 30 TMO not been siting outside VP waiting to zone in EVEN THOUGH there was already a force in there. What do you really think their intentions were? To zone into sky? Lol.

[Greeedy]

Personally, I have nothing for or against training. To some people, that type of competition for shit makes EQ fun and for others it does not. I do have something against all the double speak and pretending, however.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Greeedy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Autotune, you are not dumb. Dont act like it.

What is implied by it is something indefinite - i.e., noone else can kill the dragon in general...hence it will always be there for TMO to get whenever they want. I am saying that simply isnt true unless you add in the fact that TMO has threatened to train anyone out of VP.

Ultimately I agree with you - the content itself is not overly difficult. That is also my point, however.

The dragon would be dead had 30 TMO not been siting outside VP waiting to zone in EVEN THOUGH there was already a force in there. What do you really think their intentions were? To zone into sky? Lol.

You say "it would have been dead" because you got it to 8% once. Doesn't automatically mean the next attempt = dead.

Given enough time with no pressure, I am sure any target on this server can be killed by any gang of scrubnuts.

I mean, by your standards, other guilds are = to BDA, i mean they could kill any VP dragon, they just need a few days/weeks/months/time/raiders.

The only thing that defines a guild on p99 is being able to kill shit under pressure.

[Greeedy]

That is fine.

You are essentially agreeing with me then. I am sure you see this.

[Autotune]

I've never disagreed with that stance.

I don't see TMO vowing to give BDA free dragons. BDA is being pretty much just like VD was towards TMO after IB left.

Who knows for sure, they could get pissed b/c IB likes to poke and prod till they get smacked down (not to mention BDAs are following that trend) or they could surprise you and just give you Nexona or Hoshkar (they aren't worth much in terms of loot and I am sure IB would love to add some meaningless server first).

IMO, don't be pissed cause you don't see what IB is doing and then get trained to shit. You think they are being noble, when in fact, they are playing you like a hand (same with how they did VD). IB is mostly on EQmac, they could not care less if they ruin relations between BDA and TMO (add in those VD's with a grudge).

IB has not changed much in the way of leadership and IB leadership has never cared about the server health, only their pixels. If you haven't been around long enough to know, go back and search their recruitment threads and RnF posts.

[falkun]

I'm not saying IB is innocent at all, but you are the TMO pot calling the IB kettle "Black".

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only thing that defines a guild on p99 is being able to kill shit under pressure.

Like attempting dragons past midnight when there are two IB trainers in the zone?

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well everyone else viewed it as some lonely gamers who got trumped, who came back for revenge. Next time bring a raid force. We just didn't feel like getting into train wars past midnight.... alot of us work in the morning

There was a raid force in there, they left when your large raid force entered the zone.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like attempting dragons past midnight when there are two IB trainers in the zone?




There was a raid force in there, they left when your large raid force entered the zone.

We've already soundly destroyed IB with larger numbers in VP and killed Phara Dar. It was guild vs guild. Unlike VD, TMO and IB have actually done shit that matters.

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not saying IB is innocent at all, but you are the TMO pot calling the IB kettle "Black".

I'm not saying TMO are angels, but they are definitely not as bad as IB ever was in regards with sharing targets with other guilds. In fact, name one time IB stepped aside and gave targets to the server while they were #1

[Metallikus]

TMO actually brought in SK trainers into the zone before the suspension was lifted and parked them at our raid force to show their intentions.