What's the deal with all the "Donating" for ports?

[twizztid]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In life, it's a problem, because you see nonprofit organizations dodge taxes and so forth by accepting "mandatory donations" for various services and products. It's a misuse of the term "donation," which implies 100% voluntary payment, rather than a compulsory fee. Commerce is not regulated in everquest, though, so people can say whatever they want, but it's still considered a misuse of the term. On the other hand, people shouldn't be railed for porting people as a business and charging a fee. It makes more sense in many circumstances to both the client and the porter to have a flat fee. You don't feel like you've been shit on as a porter if you don't get paid and the customer doesn't feel awkward not knowing how much you expect for your services.

K so you're saying if you were a newb and I said 20p a port, and you only had 5p, I can tell you to stuff yourself? ( obviously I could say it anyway but you know what I mean )

Reason for donation is some people don't have a huge amount of plat, hense donation. A porter would probably only feel shit on if a level 50 epic'd out gave him like 5p, that would be kind of weird, but in the end, it's still a donation. Fixed rate would be lame idea for newbs / corpse runners. Now of course I know there are pity ports, but that isn't your argument so :P

[kariden]

Getting around in classic sucks. Totally reasonable for wizards / druids to make some $$ porting people. Saves them the time of hoofing that shit.

[lethstang]

donations were implemented because we dont want nublets paying 30pp for ports. the higher level guys will donate 100p for rezzes, or 40pp for a donation because they are rich and it subsidizes the lowbies. Its a great system.

However, the cleric not rezzing someone right next to him because of lack of pp is BS. the pp donation is for your time, not specifically for the rez. that seems to be to be the exception tho not the rule, ive had so many friendly rezzes during my time here (shoutout to sydarm and flicka, and the other clerics who randomly send me tells asking if id like a rez. you guys rock my face).

[jilena]

I hate rezzing people more than anything. It's so gd boring meditating for 37 hours while saving a bunch of strangers a few minutes of their lives at the expense of a few minutes of mine.

That said I will never advertise that I am rezzing for donations. If I am bored doing nothing and someone offers me 300+pp to come rez them I might consider it. Most days I just don't give a shit. I don't know why (especially since it's easier money than farming loot) but I completely avoid trying to use rez as a money making tool.

That said I completely get overcharging for rez. I am probably the ONLY 50 cleric that has never been /anon or /role even once. I get tells all day from people wanting me to run all over creation to rez them. I don't get what goes through the minds of people who see me in like WK or something and think I would even be slightly interested in coming to unrest to rez them for 25pp. You may as well say "Oh, Hi, I'd like you to waste 30 minutes of your life plus 50pp of your own money to get a port in order to save me 30 minutes of my exp time for a grand total of 25pp cost to you!" "What do you mean you aren't interested?!?!?!"

Just change it to say "REZZING FOR PLAT PST!" because donations is lame.

[PhilPhans]

Originally Posted by Zexa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I always make sure I have at least 20 empty bags slots on me at all times. That way when I need a port I can just put every item on me into my bags and claim I'm on a corpse run.

ya ya you play evil on the boards.. but you have been seen rezzing people and buffing people for no reason at all :P

[Arkyani]

The way I see it is mana is free, they are paying for your time. The longer something takes, the more plat you should give them.

That being said, donations are just that. Donations. In no way are they required. Anyone who says donation yet requires money is a liar and should be boycotted.

I spend hours in oasis buffing everybody and have never once even asked for a donation. Its called courtesy. It seems too many people lack it these days.

What goes around comes around, and those who are too ignorant to take ten minutes out of their day to help someone I can only pray that they never get the help they need. I have made hundreds of friends already on the server because I'm not a plat whoring, selfish a-hole. If I'm not leveling or working on a quest, I'm always helping somebody somewhere. I'd say over half of the plat I make goes towards gear for lower level people in need.

Again, its called courtesy. We've all been in a tough spot before. When everybody can take ten minutes out of their day to help someone else it makes the whole place better.

Thankfully most of the server I have met are wonderful people, and completely unlike the cleric who refuses to rez people because its a waste of their time. People remember those who help them, and even more so those are are ignorant.

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

I don't have a porter on this server but if I did...

I would charge 1p per level of the person being ported, CR ports free... all assuming I was not busy in a group or on a raid.

I generally give 30 plat for a ride, though I will go as high as hundred if I am having trouble finding someone willing and I really need to get somewhere fast.

[eqdruid76]

Originally Posted by Arkyani [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The way I see it is mana is free, they are paying for your time. The longer something takes, the more plat you should give them.

That being said, donations are just that. Donations. In no way are they required. Anyone who says donation yet requires money is a liar and should be boycotted.

I spend hours in oasis buffing everybody and have never once even asked for a donation. Its called courtesy. It seems too many people lack it these days.

What goes around comes around, and those who are too ignorant to take ten minutes out of their day to help someone I can only pray that they never get the help they need. I have made hundreds of friends already on the server because I'm not a plat whoring, selfish a-hole. If I'm not leveling or working on a quest, I'm always helping somebody somewhere. I'd say over half of the plat I make goes towards gear for lower level people in need.

Again, its called courtesy. We've all been in a tough spot before. When everybody can take ten minutes out of their day to help someone else it makes the whole place better.

Thankfully most of the server I have met are wonderful people, and completely unlike the cleric who refuses to rez people because its a waste of their time. People remember those who help them, and even more so those are are ignorant.

Courtesy works both ways.

Non-porters tend to forget that.

[jilena]

Originally Posted by Arkyani [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The way I see it is mana is free, they are paying for your time. The longer something takes, the more plat you should give them.

That being said, donations are just that. Donations. In no way are they required. Anyone who says donation yet requires money is a liar and should be boycotted.

I spend hours in oasis buffing everybody and have never once even asked for a donation. Its called courtesy. It seems too many people lack it these days.

What goes around comes around, and those who are too ignorant to take ten minutes out of their day to help someone I can only pray that they never get the help they need. I have made hundreds of friends already on the server because I'm not a plat whoring, selfish a-hole. If I'm not leveling or working on a quest, I'm always helping somebody somewhere. I'd say over half of the plat I make goes towards gear for lower level people in need.

Again, its called courtesy. We've all been in a tough spot before. When everybody can take ten minutes out of their day to help someone else it makes the whole place better.

Thankfully most of the server I have met are wonderful people, and completely unlike the cleric who refuses to rez people because its a waste of their time. People remember those who help them, and even more so those are are ignorant.

Just curious, are you a level 50 cleric that's never anon? If not then please don't act high and mighty. If I took "just 10 minutes out of my day" to help everyone who asked I would never get a single thing done in this game. Ever. You are correct they are paying for my time. And my time is not for sale every second I am logged into the game. *shrug*

If you ask why I am not anon, the answer is simple. Every time I want to farm something, and I type /who all zone, and then run there thinking there are lots of free camps just waiting to be plundered, only to find the whole zone filled with anons, I wanna stab someone in the dick. So I do everyone the courtesy of not being one of those people.

I'm so nice.

*edit I meant "why I am not anon"

[eqdruid76]

Originally Posted by jilena [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just curious, are you a level 50 cleric that's never anon? If not then please don't act high and mighty. If I took "just 10 minutes out of my day" to help everyone who asked I would never get a single thing done in this game. Ever. You are correct they are paying for my time. And my time is not for sale every second I am logged into the game. *shrug*

If you ask why I am anon, the answer is simple. Every time I want to farm something, and I type /who all zone, and then run there thinking there are lots of free camps just waiting to be plundered, only to find the whole zone filled with anons, I wanna stab someone in the dick. So I do everyone the courtesy of not being one of those people.

I'm so nice.

This.