Vox PUG starting 6/14/10 - Page 4

Abacabb · #31 06-14-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeolwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just keep thinking you aren't held accountable. You've already been banned at least 3 times I can think of you jackass. I'll be happy to add 4 to the list if you pull this garbage, along with anyone with you that chooses to follow your childish antics.

I've got a list of 22 people that want to do this, and you're going to ban them because we're going to try and make a legit attempt at downing a raid encounter?

Are we training? KSing? No. We're just not going to adhere to made up timers that only exist to satiate the greed of the top two contending guilds. If you want to ban people for raiding EXACTLY how live was, that's your beef bro.

We're going to have the force, we're going to show up, we're going to give two fucks what IB/DA says because the rules only exist for them because they benefit them and not the smaller guilds or the solitary players.

and to anyone that actually thinks this is just "Oh no Abacab is just trying to cause more R&F drama for his amusement" you're ignorant. I've talked to many people in mumbles about it, many people in game about it for sometime now and we do consider this a legit claim.

Aadill · #32 06-14-2010, 02:28 PM

Abacab: You can't just post a raid just to do a raid because no one trusts you. "Back like it was on live" also included community. Obvious trains through areas to shake up people following the rules as they are written is a good way to get shunned pretty quick.

Assuming you follow the server rules, feel free to show everyone how it's done. I'd like more contenders for mobs, anyway, PUG or not.

I'm not flaming you I'm just trying to point out that for the most part, the raiding kidsters are too serious and you aren't. This is serious f***ing business, man. We don't want no clowns. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pickled_heretic · #33 06-14-2010, 02:31 PM

I'm not saying I am in favor of this, but there's a sentiment with a lot of newer guilds that has a "fuck you" attitude toward the two top raiding guilds, perceived gm favoritism, and what some see as an inadequate set of rules right now, and this thread captures that frustration pretty well.

Yoite · #34 06-14-2010, 02:32 PM

i dont get it. whats wrong with him hosting a PUG raid? Is it just b/c its him? like if someone else proposed this they wouldnt get as much hate?

I dont follow the raid guild drama so i dont know why yall all hate him anyways, im just curious. Is this a case against him or against PUG raids?

Aadill · #35 06-14-2010, 02:34 PM

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what some see as an inadequate set of rules right now, and this thread captures that frustration pretty well.

Until the rules are changed, not following them puts you in just as worse of a position. I'm all for revolution but this is going to turn into a GM-involved thing fairly quick, assuming they even want to log in until after Vox is dead.

Abacabb · #36 06-14-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Abacab: You can't just post a raid just to do a raid because no one trusts you. "Back like it was on live" also included community. Obvious trains through areas to shake up people following the rules as they are written is a good way to get shunned pretty quick.

Assuming you follow the server rules, feel free to show everyone how it's done. I'd like more contenders for mobs, anyway, PUG or not.

I'm not flaming you I'm just trying to point out that for the most part, the raiding kidsters are too serious and you aren't. This is serious f***ing business, man. We don't want no clowns. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I'm just tired of people automatically assuming anything I try to do is meant just for the grief... Yeah, I'll grief you if you've given me a reason to and anyone that has dealt with me before knows the reasons why I grief in the first place.

So when I'm receiving tells calling me out just because their own personal distaste for who I am, I'm going to tongue in cheek it. I just find it funny I've accrued enough haters that I could write a 12 track rap album called "Ballin' on y'all"

Abacabb · #37 06-14-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i dont get it. whats wrong with him hosting a PUG raid? Is it just b/c its him? like if someone else proposed this they wouldnt get as much hate?

I dont follow the raid guild drama so i dont know why yall all hate him anyways, im just curious. Is this a case against him or against PUG raids?

It's about 50/50 some people don't approve of this idea because it's pretty much saying "Hey, the rules don't make any sense so we're throwing opposition against it"

Then there are the people that are going "Fuck Abacab"

**nilbog** · #38 06-14-2010, 02:43 PM

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See the raid rules only pertain to guilds, there are no rules when it comes to a PUG because it's not worded in that context, so I believe this PUG has a fair shot at the encounter since we are not bound to the raid rules at the current time

There is no problem with pick up groups. I participated in many of them on live. I encourage it. If you consider your PUG raid as "outside of the server rules", then you are wrong about that.

The rules the GMs wrote don't include the "fuck you" loopholes that the guilds made for each other.

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Q: What is a raid force?
A: For technicalities sake we will define a raid force as a gathering of 15+ people.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2670

Nocte · #39 06-14-2010, 02:43 PM

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Just keep thinking you aren't held accountable. You've already been banned at least 3 times I can think of you jackass. I'll be happy to add 4 to the list if you pull this garbage, along with anyone with you that chooses to follow your childish antics.

So you banned him 3 times already, and he keeps returning, and now you need a reason to ban him the 4th time?

I don't understand why you'd hesitate to delete any character he plays on the second you confirm that he's playing on the server.

pickled_heretic · #40 06-14-2010, 02:47 PM

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Until the rules are changed, not following them puts you in just as worse of a position. I'm all for revolution but this is going to turn into a GM-involved thing fairly quick, assuming they even want to log in until after Vox is dead.

I think there's some double standards going on in general. It's okay, for instance, for DA/IB to play weasel words over rules with one another, but not when one or more individuals tries to do the same in relationship to the establishment?