Seal Team removes ourselves from all player agreements

[xmaerx]

Honestly, every single raid guild on Green is proud and lazy. One just has more members than the others.

If any Anti-Seal-Team alliance was put together strictly for 7-day targets, they'd actually win. Like, Seal Team would not beat *everyone else combined* to Trakanon. They just wouldn't. That's my biggest issue with arbitrary GM-Squashing of the Seal Team monopoly: The issue IS resolvable without intervention.

With that said, such measures being necessary is dumb, Seal Team's roster is bloated garbage, and their tantrum is fucking bonkers.

EDIT: And I blame the UN for fostering an environment of "zero-competition" steady growth via rotation. If the UN didn't exist and every guild was getting absolutely fucked by Seal Team, they'd do something about it. Which is why Seal Team orchestrated the formation of the UN to begin with.

[AenorVZ]

Originally Posted by Vizax_Xaziv [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I say implement a betting system. Each guild in contest gets to "bet" on the number of players with whom they can defeat an encounter. Then attempts proceed in ascending order. Guild with the fewest players gets first attempt - if they fail they're locked out of that specific mob til next spawn.

Originally Posted by xmaerx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like, Seal Team would not beat *everyone else combined* to Trakanon. They just wouldn't.

I'll take that bet. How many players do you think you can coth into the lair in the three minutes it takes to down Trak?

[xmaerx]

Originally Posted by AenorVZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll take that bet. How many players do you think you can coth into the lair in the three minutes it takes to down Trak?

What are you insinuating? That Seal Team has more raiders and CotH's then the rest of the server combined?

Also, 3 minutes? I've been in Spore King Groups with Seal Team members and watched people *in zone* take 10 minutes to get there. Maybe 3 minutes is what it would take if Seal Team was prepared for competition, but given their performance in Sky.. that's a hard fucking sell, my dude.

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by xmaerx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What are you insinuating? That Seal Team has more raiders and CotH's then the rest of the server combined?

"Raiders" maybe not, but coth mages parked on poop mountain? Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they have more of those than the rest of the raid guilds combined, and likely more shared cleric too. But I don't know for certain, I'm sure someone from K/BL/Ven has an idea.

[Local]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Raiders" maybe not, but coth mages parked on poop mountain? Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they have more of those than the rest of the raid guilds combined, and likely more shared cleric too. But I don't know for certain, I'm sure someone from K/BL/Ven has an idea.

Nah, they don’t. Everyone’s got the mages now. The differentiators are engage speed and execution. When ST has been contested, they have engaged very quickly. Won’t say specifically how quick for competitive reasons, but it is fast.

[Swish]

The average WoW player is an idiot and probably young enough that they're well into microtransactions on mobile and console games.

It is sad though. If I was to run something similar I'd do it to prop up a guild bank and those kinds of values wouldn't be as high.

[Tuljin]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The average WoW player is an idiot

And now there are tons of WoW players on P99 lol

[CharlesBarkley]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The average WoW player is an idiot and probably young enough that they're well into microtransactions on mobile and console games.

It is sad though. If I was to run something similar I'd do it to prop up a guild bank and those kinds of values wouldn't be as high.

A game that came out over 15 years ago is a strange one to get "these damn kids" grumbly about

Stop projecting

[Bardp1999]

P99 isn't exactly a think-tank Mr Swish

[Anti]

The way you guys described Classic Wow sounds exactly like EQ TLP Servers. Except I would say TLP servers has more RMT built right into the game.

The last part of GDKP that is being left out is that at the end of the raid that gold gets divided up amongst the 40 raiders. So if you are just raiding fully geared already you can still make $$$ by doing raids you don't need to do anymore.