Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Penish]

you're literally retarded. hope this helps

[Elizondo]

Lull + DA alone >

You don't even need to bring up CH

[Penish]

sub 100 iq, uses gpt to flex what little brain he has

stop engaging yolks 8)

[bcbrown]

You haven't proven that a shaman torpor-tanking is better than a cleric CH-healing the pet.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You haven't proven that a shaman torpor-tanking is better than a cleric CH-healing the pet.

You are the one who has yet to explain why Clerics are better. Please stop dodging by always asking for more information, while providing none youself. You can look at the benefits of Torpor Tanking here:

https://project1999.com/forums/showp...postcount=4843

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Clerics provide substantially better blast healing. Sometimes shit hits the fan and rapid healing is more important than mana-efficient healing. Here's the health per second figures of shaman and cleric heals:
Greater Healing - 80 HPS for cleric, 72 HPS for shaman
Superior Healing - 129 HPS for cleric, 116 HPS for shaman
Remedy, level 51 - 146 HPS
Divine Light, level 53 - 200 HPS
Chloroblast, level 55 - 128 HPS
Torpor - 300hp/tick is 50 HPS

Cleric health per second is 129 at level 50 compared to 72 for shaman. 200 to 128 at 55 onwards.

Last night I was cleric for a CoM arena group - two enchanters, a rogue, and a ranger who was pulling and tanking. We had absolutely insane DPS, and were clearing arena, the goo houses, and most of the moat. At one point one of the enchanters started getting slapped around, perhaps on a charm break. I had to chain-cast superior healing, superior healing, greater healing, with the first spell landing at about 15%, the second at about 20-25%, and the third bringing them back up to almost full.

I'm level 49, so if I was on my shaman my best heal would be greater healing. Two GH would have been 540hp, while the two SH healed over 1150. That enchanter would have died if I was on my shaman.

[Elizondo]

DSM is a black hole of insanity

"Water is wet"

DSM - "Prove it"

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Please show a scenario where a Cleric's extra healing power is offsetting what a Shaman is doing in the group. Better healing does not necessarily translate to more kills per hour, which is how XP groups are measured.

On a charm break you can do other things like root or slow if the situation is bad by the way. Malo may have prevented thr break too.

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't understand Shamans, because you think that an Enchanter pet is tanking, and the Shaman is Torporing the pet. Thats not how it works. The Shaman tanks and torpors themselves. No need to slow the pet.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On a charm break you can do other things like root or slow if the situation is bad by the way.

Notice how DSM always moves the goal posts and magically allows his Shaman to be doing everything all at once. In this example, he claims he is going to be tanking while also helping the Enchanter on charm breaks. One wonders if he is also root rotting 5 different mobs while doing all of this to increase DPS? Apparently anything is possible with DSM's Shaman magic!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Notice how DSM always moves the goal posts and magically allows his Shaman to be doing everything all at once. In this example, he claims he is going to be tanking while also helping the Enchanter on charm breaks. One wonders if he is also root rotting 5 different mobs while doing all of this to increase DPS? Apparently anything is possible with DSM's Shaman magic!

You can Torpor tank and cast other spells:

https://youtu.be/oPxeOVuX0G8?feature=shared

I am not sure why you think otherwise. Shamans are very versitile when played well.