Consider Project 2002

[Furniture]

I've been boxing groups on my own private al'kabor server with MQ2 and I absolutely love it. It is a game of micromanagement of several characters, programming (writing your own mq2 macros), and good old everquest and with enough experience writing quality macros you can just play one character and use simple commands to tell your group what to do and let the macros take care of the rest (clerics healing when hp low, etc.). At the moment I am maining a rogue in a 6 person group and dont have to switch to any of my other characters to do anything. It is like p99 minus all the idiots.

I really cant say I enjoy the boxing on Al'kabor or P2002 without MQ2. It turns it into a really fucking annoying game of alt tabbing and manually clicking and entering keystrokes that way and i think it is just plain tedious as hell. I understand why these servers don't allow mq2 though and I agree with it, but I do think the servers would be more fun (for me) without boxing.

[Furniture]

I think freedom to manage it themselves would be more along the lines of no gm involvement whatsoever and over time it would (hopefully) get worked out among the players.

There has never been no gm involvement on this server and I even remember prekunark a dev altering pathing in permafrost secretly overnight to make his competition wipe and give his own guild the advantage.

[Wharhog]

Originally Posted by Furniture [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There has never been no gm involvement on this server and I even remember prekunark a dev altering pathing in permafrost secretly overnight to make his competition wipe and give his own guild the advantage.

To what server are you referring?

[Furniture]

Originally Posted by Wharhog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To what server are you referring?

It was p99. The devs name was Xzerion who I believe also led IB at the time but wasnt the original leader. I believe the backlash caused him to get removed from the staff but i'm not entirely sure because i stopped playing very shortly after this ordeal (but I think maybe he returned later? I dont know) This was back sometime in like may or june 2010.

It was a long time ago and I'm sure other people here know more about it then me, but from what I remember our guild (dark ascension) usually buffed up/afked at a certain spot (the raid rules at the time were first 15 in the zone, so guilds would get their numbers there first and then could afk for a while before the spawn). IB and DA were at war with each other and xzerion overnight changed the pathing of 1 or 2 icy terrors to path to that location to wipe the guild. The change wasnt listed on p99s patch notes until several days later (credited to Xzerion). With the immense hatred between the two guilds at the time there was no mistaking the act as offensive and certainly caused some controversy.

[BossThunderace]

my my, this thread has gone 'Off Topic' ..

p2002 like a baby right now, p99 like an old elderly person?

Check out the server y'all!!

[Furniture]

I know about dexpot and have used it.

Having to switch to another screen and manually hitting every single keystroke or mouse stroke between three characters is what I find tedious no matter if it is with dexpot or alt-tabbing. And I am talking about both servers, takproject and p2002. Id love if one of these servers either prohibited boxing or allowed MQ2 boxing between 3 characters. Allowing MQ2 boxing would bring a whole slew of other issues though and would not be a good idea overall.

To each his own though. I am fine on my own server boxing my raid with MQ2.

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Furniture [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know about dexpot and have used it.

Having to switch to another screen and manually hitting every single keystroke or mouse stroke between three characters is what I find tedious no matter if it is with dexpot or alt-tabbing. And I am talking about both servers, takproject and p2002.

To each his own though. I am fine on my own server boxing my raid with MQ2.

I tend to agree, the most boxing I can do is having a buff bot sit there while i just basically solo with another character. Actively playing two or more characters is just a pain to me and I feel like I'm focusing more on the mechanics of playing rather than just enjoying the game.

[Lorian]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I tend to agree, the most boxing I can do is having a buff bot sit there while i just basically solo with another character. Actively playing two or more characters is just a pain to me and I feel like I'm focusing more on the mechanics of playing rather than just enjoying the game.

Yes, its is a bit repetitive doing solo boxing for longer periods, but as soon as you join another real player with their boxes its tons of fun! Especially since less competition for the good stuff! For instance, I could never get a group in Mistmoore on p99, but here I've been doing some really nice levelling in a 3+2 box group from 22 to 26.

[budorf]

Originally Posted by Furniture [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know about dexpot and have used it.

Having to switch to another screen and manually hitting every single keystroke or mouse stroke between three characters is what I find tedious no matter if it is with dexpot or alt-tabbing. And I am talking about both servers, takproject and p2002. Id love if one of these servers either prohibited boxing or allowed MQ2 boxing between 3 characters. Allowing MQ2 boxing would bring a whole slew of other issues though and would not be a good idea overall.

To each his own though. I am fine on my own server boxing my raid with MQ2.

Pretty much agree with all of this.. It is kind of tedious with the tabbing back and forth, and you obviously can't get the best efficiency out of all of your chars. I played ezserver for a while, that is a whole new crazy set of boxing (6 and 12 man groups) so I've done the other end of the spectrum on boxing as well. Guess it really just depends on your play style and how much tedium you can put up with.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

And what solves every single problem listed above?

Titanium.