Are you kidding me?

[zanderklocke]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CAN YOU EVER FORGIVE ME ZANDERR

Okay.

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by Fazlazen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can one lease a crown of rile character for in-game currency?

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could follow someone clicking it. Come now Patsy, RnF is a silly place.

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fucking lol'd hard

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Mistle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But that's not what he's arguing. He says the 'casual guilds' weren't good enough to beat Trak, get teeth, move to VP, and get crowns of Rile. Clearly Maner believes he is better than them. He says it outright. So, I'd like to know what it is that makes him better. Should be a pretty easy question for him to answer, not sure why these A/A guys keep dodging it.

Obviously being good enough to beat trak also includes beating the other guilds going for him, on this server at least. Why not focus on making kunark more casual friendly than jumping right to NToV? Why not work on getting your guild through the kunark progression before you complain that you aren't seeing enough dragons in velious? I personally think racing is stupid, it requires much more man power than cothing did. It requires more man power than sitting a mage through chardok and leveling your own mages so you can compete at the coth pulling.

I have never soloed trak but I have killed him with 16 people so obviously it doesn't take 30-80 people to kill him. There have been times when we have cleared everything and then pulled trak, its not just coth racing, because there was no competition for him.

I haven't played on this server newarly as long as most people in my guild obviously, but I have 2 of my toons keyed for VP along with a friends cleric who just needs PS. It is not that much of a commitment to get a VP key, its just another excuse used by casuals who would rather have everything handed to them.

With all that spin, I am surprised you could even read my original post.

[jcr4990]

I honestly can't even believe people are seriously promoting the idea that progressing through VP and farming multiple crowns before being able to contest Velious targets is reasonable.

Are these people batshit insane or am I on drugs?

[Maner]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I honestly can't even believe people are seriously promoting the idea that progressing through VP and farming multiple crowns before being able to contest Velious targets is reasonable.

Are these people batshit insane or am I on drugs?

I never said that crowns should be usable, in fact I said the entire racing idea was dumb in my opinion. I just think using the argument that developers didn't put in the crown so people could get FTEs is stupid, as this entire racing idea isn't something the developers planned for either.

As far a logical progression goes, anon already admitted they don't have the keys for VP. So they aren't willing to put forth the time to key themselves and progress through the content that is there, why should they demand that everything be changed in ToV to cater to them as well? Why aren't they also demanding that the VP key be taken away so that anyone can zone in, isn't that the same type of argument?

If you're guild cant even commit 20 people to kill trak then where do you get off demanding that you deserve the same chance as everyone else at the best ToV mobs?

[Freakish]

I have no problem with people using crowns, DA idols, shadowstep masks and whatever ingenious new strategy they find to be able to win a foot race. It's a stupid way to determine who gets the mob no matter who wins, time is wasted and i'd rather just turn everything into a Noble type situation with no variance. Hell, put a 2 person limit on jav spamming and give everything a 1 hour variance, still better than making people stare at the screen with nothing happening for 2/3 of the day.

[Mistle]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Obviously being good enough to beat trak also includes beating the other guilds going for him, on this server at least.

And that is due to you, is it?

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have never soloed trak but I have killed him with 16 people so obviously it doesn't take 30-80 people to kill him.

You are aware that the top guilds have a gear advantage gained long before you even joined the server that permits them to do this where smaller casual guilds cannot, and therefore can always engage earlier than they can in coth races?

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I haven't played on this server newarly as long as most people in my guild obviously, but I have 2 of my toons keyed for VP along with a friends cleric who just needs PS. It is not that much of a commitment to get a VP key, its just another excuse used by casuals who would rather have everything handed to them.

Did you get your VP keys with a guild that is still trying to get regular Trak keys and can't field a full VP raid or did you stand on the shoulders of those who came before you?

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With all that spin, I am surprised you could even read my original post.

On the contrary I greatly enjoy reading how summer children such as yourself (someone who reaps the benefits of things that happened long before you ever looted your first rusty dagger) deserve things so much more than other people while being utterly unaware that you are completely interchangeable with any of those filthy casuals you look down on without anyone blinking an eye. The ironic thing is you actually think it's OTHER people who want things handed to them after pretty much embodying it yourself. Heh.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Mistle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And that is due to you, is it?

You are aware that the top guilds have a gear advantage gained long before you even joined the server that permits them to do this where smaller casual guilds cannot, and therefore can always engage earlier than they can in coth races?

Did you get your VP keys with a guild that is still trying to get regular Trak keys and can't field a full VP raid or did you stand on the shoulders of those who came before you?

On the contrary I greatly enjoy reading how summer children such as yourself (someone who reaps the benefits of things that happened long before you ever looted your first rusty dagger) deserve things so much more than other people while being utterly unaware that you are completely interchangeable with any of those filthy casuals you look down on without anyone blinking an eye. The ironic thing is you actually think it's OTHER people who want things handed to them after pretty much embodying it yourself. Heh.

I literally said in the next line that I never soloed trak, I have tracked him though so yes, on the kills I was there tracking and one of the first 10 cothed, yes, it was partly because of me.

I got my VP key in a guild that was still actively going after trak for keys to get into VP yes, indignation to be specific. So where is that gear advantage you were talking about? I got my key in indignation when we killed trak with 20 people.

I don't know where I said I personally deserve anything. I was nothing but another warm body for the people who had been here for years to use when I joined AM. Since then I have come to comprehend how the raid scene works and how to best use my time to benefit my guild. I am sorry that for some reason this line of thinking is offensive to you, I never claimed to be anything more than I am. you just apparently have the comprehension of a liberal.

When I joined AM I had 50% RA but RL and repops happened and now I am working to try and bring my attendance back up to a respectable level. I never put in for a Loot council item when it was just forsaken, and I haven't even bid on anything in months. I don't consider myself "hardcore", I show up to raids when I am at home and the batphone goes off, or I just shrug it off to real life and don't worry.

It is however pretty eye opening seeing how upset this game makes you. Perhaps you should take a step back and find a better direction to take your life.

[Xaanka]

not reading any of this blue shit about foot races JESUS christ u guys need to get laid once in a while or find some kind of happiness in your lives that isnt tied to a dying emulated elf game

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never said that crowns should be usable, in fact I said the entire racing idea was dumb in my opinion. I just think using the argument that developers didn't put in the crown so people could get FTEs is stupid, as this entire racing idea isn't something the developers planned for either.

As far a logical progression goes, anon already admitted they don't have the keys for VP. So they aren't willing to put forth the time to key themselves and progress through the content that is there, why should they demand that everything be changed in ToV to cater to them as well? Why aren't they also demanding that the VP key be taken away so that anyone can zone in, isn't that the same type of argument?

If you're guild cant even commit 20 people to kill trak then where do you get off demanding that you deserve the same chance as everyone else at the best ToV mobs?

Originally Posted by Freakish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have no problem with people using crowns, DA idols, shadowstep masks and whatever ingenious new strategy they find to be able to win a foot race. It's a stupid way to determine who gets the mob no matter who wins, time is wasted and i'd rather just turn everything into a Noble type situation with no variance. Hell, put a 2 person limit on jav spamming and give everything a 1 hour variance, still better than making people stare at the screen with nothing happening for 2/3 of the day.

Originally Posted by Mistle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And that is due to you, is it?



You are aware that the top guilds have a gear advantage gained long before you even joined the server that permits them to do this where smaller casual guilds cannot, and therefore can always engage earlier than they can in coth races?



Did you get your VP keys with a guild that is still trying to get regular Trak keys and can't field a full VP raid or did you stand on the shoulders of those who came before you?



On the contrary I greatly enjoy reading how summer children such as yourself (someone who reaps the benefits of things that happened long before you ever looted your first rusty dagger) deserve things so much more than other people while being utterly unaware that you are completely interchangeable with any of those filthy casuals you look down on without anyone blinking an eye. The ironic thing is you actually think it's OTHER people who want things handed to them after pretty much embodying it yourself. Heh.

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I literally said in the next line that I never soloed trak, I have tracked him though so yes, on the kills I was there tracking and one of the first 10 cothed, yes, it was partly because of me.

I got my VP key in a guild that was still actively going after trak for keys to get into VP yes, indignation to be specific. So where is that gear advantage you were talking about? I got my key in indignation when we killed trak with 20 people.

I don't know where I said I personally deserve anything. I was nothing but another warm body for the people who had been here for years to use when I joined AM. Since then I have come to comprehend how the raid scene works and how to best use my time to benefit my guild. I am sorry that for some reason this line of thinking is offensive to you, I never claimed to be anything more than I am. you just apparently have the comprehension of a liberal.

When I joined AM I had 50% RA but RL and repops happened and now I am working to try and bring my attendance back up to a respectable level. I never put in for a Loot council item when it was just forsaken, and I haven't even bid on anything in months. I don't consider myself "hardcore", I show up to raids when I am at home and the batphone goes off, or I just shrug it off to real life and don't worry.

It is however pretty eye opening seeing how upset this game makes you. Perhaps you should take a step back and find a better direction to take your life.

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