5-4 incoming?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Medical RnD is fueled by profit and without the profit it would stifle and regress.

Not that I agree that how it's done now is best but we are nowhere near advanced enough as a species to invest in medical RnD for humanitarian reasons. The pursuit of the almighty dollar fuels it all.

Precisely.

[Reiwa]

There really isn't any argument against the child tax credit(or similar scheme) if abortion is no longer legal.

There already wasn't any, but now there really isn't.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't think outlawing abortion will ever solve the "problem". It's way more complicated than just "dont kill babies".

So why do you think making it legal does?

It's simple if your argument is "it should be legal but we should culturally shun it" then why dont we culturally shun it since we made it illegal?

We consider abortion survivors to be victims that need empathy for christakes.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So why do you think making it legal does?

It's simple if your argument is "it should be legal but we should culturally shun it" then why dont we culturally shun it since we made it illegal?

We consider abortion survivors to be victims that need empathy for christakes.

I don't think we should shun anyone, regardless of the status of abortion's legality. I don't know where you get that. I may find some aspects ethically questionable... but welcome to the far left. We're up to our eyeballs in unethical things no matter what the hell we do.

The only difference is that I actually talk to people I disagree with because there sure is a lot of misunderstanding out there

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CDC Abortion Surveillance — United States, 2019

Don't we have better things to surveil? Granted that seems voluntary ish.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think we should shun anyone, regardless of the status of abortion's legality. I don't know where you get that. I may find some aspects ethically questionable... but welcome to the far left. We're up to our eyeballs in unethical things no matter what the hell we do.

The only difference is that I actually talk to people I disagree with because there sure is a lot of misunderstanding out there

Oh the most rational argument for abortion is that it should be legal but we should not encourage it.

But if its make it legal and make people that get it feel special, then HARD PASS

there sure is a lot of misunderstanding out there

yes like hands and gums mean "alive"

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh the most rational argument for abortion is that it should be legal but we should not encourage it.

But if its make it legal and make people that get it feel special, then HARD PASS



yes like hands and gums mean "alive"

Have you spoken with someone who has had an abortion, or known them personally? I don't want to speak for the woman I know who has had one, but I feel like saying doing so made her feel special is wrong. It was not an easy decision, reportedly.

Love the sinner, hate the sin, after all

[starkind]

I'm totally cool with aborting myself if G-d could tell me for sure it would make the world a better place for everyone.

Unless you can be that selfless you are unworthy and unwilling to do what is necessary.

So far G-d says no suicide. Make Satan kill you. That could change tho.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you spoken with someone who has had an abortion, or known them personally? I don't want to speak for the woman I know who has had one, but I feel like saying doing so made her feel special is wrong. It was not an easy decision, reportedly.

Love the sinner, hate the sin, after all

I know someone who has and she regrets it every single day, and it was over 40 years ago.

It was a boy.

There are support groups for this for a reason. I don't know how anyone can go through it with a sense of relief for killing that little human being, but they do somehow, they do. Our species is all kinds of fucked up.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know someone who has and she regrets it every single day, and it was over 40 years ago.

It was a boy.

There are support groups for this for a reason. I don't know how anyone can go through it with a sense of relief for killing that little human being, but they do somehow, they do. Our species is all kinds of fucked up.

Well, I am sure there's a diversity of opinions. All I meant is that I do not think it makes most people feel "special" I would wager. Maybe some, but that's a whole different can of worms.