New Druid Advice from the experts

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Considering multiple posters (including yourself) have discussed levels 50-60 multiple times in this thread, I disagree with your assessment.

Two things. First, did those other posters throw the topic into the conversation ... or did they just respond to you? Because it looks to me like you introduced the ring on page 2, then again on page 3, and then again ...

Second, disagree all you want, but the fact remains that any human being with a shred of self-awareness would recognize that when they interjected a level 49+ item into a conversation where everyone else was talking about starting Druids ... they made a mistake.

[loramin]

And look, you don't need to make a big deal of it. Again, a normal person could simply acknowledge "oh you know what? This was a thread about newbie Druids, and I chimed in about a 49+ item: my bad".

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Two things. First, did those other posters throw the topic into the conversation ... or did they just respond to you? Because it looks to me like you introduced the ring on page 2, then again on page 3, and then again ...

On page 1 you posted this:

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You might find https://wiki.project1999.com/Equipping_a_Druid helpful, but for that budget I'd just save up a k or 2 more and drop it all on the Goblin Ghazughi ring. It won't help for the first 20 or so levels, but after that you can charm for great XP ... and the XP is even greater with the ring.

The equipping a druid page has gear for all level ranges, including Epic. You did not specify "only look at X items or Y sections, which are for lower level players."

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Second, disagree all you want, but the fact remains that any human being with a shred of self-awareness would recognize that when they interjected a level 49+ item into a conversation where everyone else was talking about starting Druids ... they made a mistake.

Sounds like you made the same mistake then on page 1 given the quote above.

Remember when you said:

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And when I make a mistake
.. I acknowledge it.

I have been waiting on multiple admissions of mistakes that haven't emerged from you yet. I guess we can add another to the pile.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And look, you don't need to make a big deal of it. Again, a normal person could simply acknowledge "oh you know what? This was a thread about newbie Druids, and I chimed in about a 49+ item: my bad".

You're the one making a big deal out of it by spamming the thread:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=395

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=386

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=376

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=369

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=354

Your last 5 posts in the row have been lies about me. You didn't even bother trying to mix these with information relevant to the topic.

You want to shut down the conversation with lies, instead of prove me wrong with facts and logic. There are more examples of your poor behavior in this thread, those are just the latest.

You are the problem here, not me.

I'm still waiting Loramin:

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And when I make a mistake
.. I acknowledge it.

[loramin]

Yeah it's weird: as much as the sensible thing would be to give up, and despite all evidence suggesting it's not possible, I keep trying to prod you into realizing some basic ideas ...

• A) You clearly have intelligence, knowledge about the game, and a desire to contribute positively to the community.
• B) It makes it all the more frustrating when you use that knowledge and intelligence to post dishonestly, disingenuously, and at times disrespectfully. It's not every post, but it's a consistent pattern.
• C) If B) changed, you truly would be a great poster
• D) The fact that you are "harassed" on these forums (in a way no other poster is) isn't because you are unlucky: it's a direct consequence of B)
• E) If you didn't post that way, you also wouldn't be "harassed"

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah it's weird: as much as the sensible thing would be to give up, and despite all evidence suggesting it's not possible, I keep trying to prod you into realizing some basic ideas ...

• A) You clearly have intelligence, knowledge about the game, and a desire to contribute positively to the community.
• B) It makes it all the more frustrating when you use that knowledge and intelligence to post dishonestly, disingenuously, and at times disrespectfully. It's not every post, but it's a consistent pattern.
• C) If B) changed, you truly would be a great poster
• D) The fact that you are "harassed" on these forums (in a way no other poster is) isn't because you are unlucky: it's a direct consequence of B)
• E) If you didn't post that way, you also wouldn't be "harassed"

Are you trying to claim I am to blame for you spamming the thread with posts like this?

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=395

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=386

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=376

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=369

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=354

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And when I make a mistake
.. I acknowledge it.

Sadly you won't admit some of the mistakes you made in this thread. You are passing the blame on to me instead to try and save face.

While we are on the topic of giving each other advice, mine is quite simple:

Look in a mirror and fix yourself before trying to fix others.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you trying to claim I am to blame for you spamming the thread with posts like this?

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=395

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=386

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=376

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=369

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=354

Why is everything about blame with you? But yes, those posts connect; take the first one:

Originally Posted by Loramin

What does "The Starting Zone" mean to you, Mr. Disengenuous?

It shouldn't even need to be stated that posts in The Starting Zone are directed at new players. To any normal human, that fact is part of the conversation's context, just like the fact we're in a thread that's explicitly asking for new druid advice.

When a normal person understands the context, it doesn't matter why they made a mistake, and it also doesn't have to be a giant forum fight. When someone says ...

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The ring of stealthy travel isn't relevant because you can't use it till level 49 and this thread is in the context of leveling a charming druid.

... they don't argue with them, they don't come up with counterpoints, and they don't shoot the messenger. They just acknowledge that a mistake was made, and move on.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is everything about blame with you? But yes, those posts connect; take the first one:

.....

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

D) The fact that you are "harassed" on these forums (in a way no other poster is) isn't because you are unlucky: it's a direct consequence of B)
E) If you didn't post that way, you also wouldn't be "harassed"

You are blaming me here... for other posters attacking me. This includes yourself. Somehow nobody else is repsonsible for what they type. I somehow forced you to spam the thread with your lies and nonsense.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And when I make a mistake
.. I acknowledge it.

Still waiting.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When a normal person understands the context, it doesn't matter why they made a mistake, and it also doesn't have to be a giant forum fight.

Hell, you and I disagree (maybe kinda strongly) about whether HP gear is worth prioritizing under the context of this thread and we managed to have a constructive and polite discussion about it in the first few pages. We each made a couple points and then we each moved on. Neither of us convinced the other, and that's ok.

Also, now every time I zone a fight gone wrong at low enough health to lose all my buffs, it reminds me of that little discussion we had [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hell, you and I disagree (maybe kinda strongly) about whether HP gear is worth prioritizing under the context of this thread and we managed to have a constructive and polite discussion about it in the first few pages. We each made a couple points and then we each moved on. Neither of us convinced the other, and that's ok.

Also, now every time I zone a fight gone wrong at low enough health to lose all my buffs, it reminds me of that little discussion we had [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think this is a good framing, considering this is the first thing Loramin said to me:

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow, I haven't seen a "DSM says something completely wrong, with total confidence" hot take in a while [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If Loramin can only be polite for small periods of time, or to specific posters, that is a problem with Loramin, it isn't anyone else's fault.

You weren't very polite in this thread either.