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[Dior]

I'll also like to throw in that using the "something can't come from nothing" argument essentially means that you don't believe there is a single creator that is the end all. If something can't come from nothing, then where did god(s) come from?

I know this will be ignored because you guys like doing the trolling equivalent to the "Who's On First" routine, but it still needs to be pointed out.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Dior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll also like to throw in that using the "something can't come from nothing" argument essentially means that you don't believe there is a single creator that is the end all. If something can't come from nothing, then where did god(s) come from?

I've already pointed this out several times, but I don't blame you for missing it considering the length of the thread. This is also known as the infinite regression argument, and there has never been a meaningful rebuttal to it by any creationist.

[Dior]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've already pointed this out several times, but I don't blame you for missing it considering the length of the thread. This is also known as the infinite regression argument, and there has never been a meaningful rebuttal to it by any creationist.

Maybe they have the transitional form of god?

I do thoroughly apologize for the overstep.

[RobotElvis]

Originally Posted by Dior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll also like to throw in that using the "something can't come from nothing" argument essentially means that you don't believe there is a single creator that is the end all. If something can't come from nothing, then where did god(s) come from?

I know this will be ignored because you guys like doing the trolling equivalent to the "Who's On First" routine, but it still needs to be pointed out.

If God created matter he cannot reside within it. God is a spirit and is not confined to the physical laws of our universe as he is not material/physical.
This includes the laws of time. God is not constrained by time as time is a product of the physical laws that make up our universe and only affects the physical.

Therefore it can rightly be said that the Creator has no beginning and no end. He was not created.

[Dior]

Originally Posted by RobotElvis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If God created matter he cannot reside within it. God is a spirit and is not confined to the physical laws of our universe as he is not material/physical.
This includes the laws of time. God is not constrained by time as time is a product of the physical laws that make up our universe and only affects the physical.

Therefore it can rightly be said that the Creator has no beginning and no end. He was not created.

The Bible does not say god is spirit.

[RobotElvis]

Originally Posted by Dior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Bible does not say god is spirit.

God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.”—JOHN 4:24.

[Dior]

Originally Posted by RobotElvis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.”—JOHN 4:24.

I know you just googled that, and I know you don't really believe the shit you're spewing because if you did, you'd know that the passage refers to god being and proven by the righteous actions of people.

You want to make the claim god is supra and supernatural. The Bible doesn't say that anywhere. Not does it claim that god sits outside of this realm. If he did, that would nullify Jesus's actions in the flesh.

Want some more schooling on the Bible?

[Dior]

Well, not in the way you mean to use the word.

[Pokesan]

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[paulgiamatti]

As far as I'm concerned, and this was my first post directed at him, Robot is exempt from a rational debate altogether since right away he declared evolution is a religion. I don't know how many times I have to repeat this, but I suppose I will once more: This does not pass as an argument and this kind of conflation of ideas should warrant no consideration in today's society which holds itself to higher standards for very good reasons.

You don't get to participate in this discussion when right off the bat you conflate evolution with religion, and atheism with belief. These are the most basic, simple, elementary concepts I can possibly think of regarding this subject. No reasonable sentient being would listen to another word in any real debate or discussion concerning this matter. Get serious, or be left out of the conversation.