14 Children and Teacher Killed in Texas Elementary School Shooting

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fact is that there are no facts about "gun control" increasing public safety. It goes without saying that when there are less guns that exist, less people will get killed by guns. That is 1st grade no brainer science. Just because bullets kill us less does not make us more safe.

I am so glad you said that, I was so disappointed that link was "scientific" American, I was reading it thinking, all of this is specious reasoning, none of this is evidence based.

and then I was like, god damn this is "Scientific" American?? god we are so screwed.

Its shocking how much gun control lowers suicides: makes me think the evidence might show it really does take the guns from the people who have them for defense.

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You say that like it's a bad thing to care about victims of gun violence.

You misunderstand me like its a good thing to demonstrate basic misunderstanding.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You say that like it's a bad thing to care about victims of gun violence.

It's a bad thing to only care about victims of gun violence while looking the other way on all of the other forms of violence caused by the politicians you'd hypothetically elect to enact gun control laws to control the gun violence

[Mblake1981]

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[Jibartik]

Saying someone who wants gun control cares about gun victims, while someone who is willing to try something else in the interest of trying something is a pretty petty thing to do and really only re-enforces my american exceptionalism is the problem theory.

[Gustoo]

Loramin I actually don't want to be an asshole towards you and kinda bully you in this way. I do get passionate about 2nd amendment stuff, because when it is approached rationally, the answer is incredibly clear.

It is difficult to find honest studies available anywhere about real world situations like the law passed in Maine despite that situation being a very very easy one to draw data from. When you do dig into statistics (look at Maine gun crime rates since 2015) the data virtually invariably shows no statistically significant increase in gun violence.

The only rare exceptions are when there is a corresponding increase in police lead anti gang violence or other unrelated death increasing policies.

There are many examples where "permissive" gun laws are passed, and no data is drawn or discussed. In all cases it is because the data goes against "studies" like the one you linked, that are nonsense.

The federal "assault weapons ban" expired in 2004. It was the most restrictive gun prohibition in the united states ever, and never made anyone more safe. Passing such a law again would be a best case scenario for anti-gun people, but there is no data to say that 1994-2004 was a period of unprecedented public safety, because it wasn't.

Just so you know, you can still identify as a die hard liberal and disavow a nonsense anti second ammendment viewpoint. Just like people can be conservatives and disavow the orange man (who is not a conservative)

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is difficult to find honest studies available anywhere about real world situations like the law passed in Maine despite that situation being a very very easy one to draw data from. When you do dig into statistics (look at Maine gun crime rates since 2015) the data virtually invariably shows no statistically significant increase in gun violence.

Remember when the people who claim to represent 'SCIENCE!' told you that a shitty mask bought at 7/11 could stop Covid?

[Jibartik]

Lets all just take a moment to bow our heads and thank the forefathers that he didnt use a bumpstock.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He was a self described left wing authoritarian eco warrior that hated Fox News and Conservatism you dumb kraut

A Thanos guy again?

Guillotine...Stan Lee? I don't know, but someone there needs to be guillotined.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Remember when the people who claim to represent 'SCIENCE!' told you that a shitty mask bought at 7/11 could stop Covid?

Remember when you were waiting for animals to come speak to you and tell you that they were heterosexual only?

Lol go back to the kid's table and color, do your best to stay inside the lines