Lord Nagafen & Lady Vox status (post 52 restriction)

[Littlegyno]

need pvp to resolve these problems imho.

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I only read the first part of your block of text

I have a live in girlfriend a 50 hour a week job working as a government contractor, own a house and 2 cars.

I also have 50% raid attences with my guild and 90% attendence on trak kills.

Stop pretending that in order to raid you need to be a neckbeard, you just suck.

Does your guild leader have your phone number?

[Seaweedpimp]

I have tiggle's phone number.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I only read the first part of your block of text

I have a live in girlfriend a 50 hour a week job working as a government contractor, own a house and 2 cars.

I also have 50% raid attences with my guild and 90% attendence on trak kills.

Stop pretending that in order to raid you need to be a neckbeard, you just suck.

I'm with Tiggle on that. You guys saying this attitude is going to be the downfall of this server have been singing the same song for years now.

Yendor for you to say that everyone has to team up against us is foolish, like I said this isn't a one horse race. TMO uses the exact same tactics we do, there is a video in another thread of Winterfresh, aka Durison their guild leader, attempting to pull juggs into the middle of a Trak that our guild has already engaged. There are countless threads from both TR and TMO pointing fingers because one guild was rushing in while the other had one person get FTE, this type of stuff has been going on forever. I can recall being on a CT raid prior to Kunark where we had 15 in zone and two golems down first, a rule that SKOPE'S guild spearheaded to implement, when an officer from DA pulled every mob he could into our camp and DA rushed CT for the win. Did he get a suspension? Yes. But this type of stuff is recurrent.

I'm sorry you guys lost Nagafen, but again get more competitive. Learn the tricks of that raid encounter and don't act like attacking the giants prior to bridge gives you some claim on the end mob. This isn't WoW, it's not a dungeon crawl to a boss in an instance. FTE is the rule and there are many, many, creative ways this gets done at the top.

Does it suck that the more casual guilds have to get in the middle of this? Yes unfortunately it does, but this is what classic EQ was like during Kunark. There simply isn't enough mobs to go around. We have basically 5 new raid mobs, that's not enough to appease a server that is so saturated with level 60's due to lagged development.

Skope, I have no idea what the question you keep ranting about is. Post the screenshots of level 60's attacking Nagafen imo, people can be in the general vicinity (i.e. just outside his room) and so long as they aren't casting on people who are on Naggy's aggro list they won't get banished. I'm guessing that is what actually happened.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The server population is high at the moment, but this type of asshattery will not be good in the long term for the server. My main just got to raiding level and I just don't really see the value in raiding on here. I do not have the time to log in every night for 4+ hours let alone the insane amount of time poopsocking takes. I am married and a professional, you know like 40-60 hours a week, pay taxes, dress nice, no government assistance, ringing any bells? Probably not. I would guess to say that I am a good sample of atleast 1/3rd of the population that has played P99 since its inception. Are we a good sample at the current time? I doubt it, because I doubt a lot of people like me have stuck around.
In 2000 I picked up this game for the first time during Velious. I thought it was kind of fun, but one day I saw a Paladin run by, flaming sword in hand. That day changed the way I played this game. I saw the driving force for all people that play this game. Sweet loot. As I leveled, I learned about raiding and how that would get me more sweet loot, so I got into raiding and thoroughly enjoyed taking down Naggy and Vox and some of the other easier bosses.
The reason I logged into P99 the first time was pure nostalgia. The reason I kept logging in was enjoyment of leveling. Now, I am burned on leveling and I want to raid, but seeing the level of commitment and time it will take is a big let down. On Drinal we had Cats in Hats, and all the 12 year olds peed their pants when Ubar ran by. From what I saw, everyone looked up to that guild and their leader as great individuals. They were the ones that made me want to play and get gear and get an epic, because I looked up to them.
Your guilds "moral high ground" is a pit. You are so far down that no light is reaching you so you can realize how far you have sunk. No one looks up to you, and people like me just don't have time for the bull you guys love to pull. If I am on a raid and you guys leapfrog my guild in the 3 hours I get a week for raiding, I am going to get angry.
I am not going to use that anger to ignore my family to play more. I am not going to quit my job. I am not going to give my guild leader my phone number so he can bat phone me. I am just going to go do something else, because my time is the most valuable thing I have, and you are basically stealing it from me.
Yes, competition does exist and it is healthy, but you guys are competing against individuals that do not have the plethora of time that your whole raiding guild seems to somehow possess, and so, a lot of us, won't compete with you. Yay, you won! Congratulations! Just know that one day you will run into EC and there will be no one there to check your awesome gear, chat with you, or buy the 50th CoF you just farmed.
One of the tags says TR's private server, and the way you are behaving will make it a public server that only you play on. I doubt the dev team would want to continue developing for people like you though.

TL;DR
TR drives away casual players and will lead to population decline as people level and find no desire to raid.

I have no idea who you are but I'm 100% certain I play this game less than you do. Get your nostalgia in, that's great I'm happy for you. If my guild's pursuit of boss kills ruins your fun I'm sorry but I honestly believe you're in the minority. Out of the 1500-2000 active players on this server only a handful are represented by TR and about an equal number are represented on the forums. Most of the shit up here is just people spewing venom to kill time at work.

There are so many other ways and reasons to enjoy EQ that if not getting easy or uncontested boss kills is what ruins this for you I'd move on to another game where your 3 raid hours per week is better spent on guaranteed fights.

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are so many other ways and reasons to enjoy EQ that if not getting easy or uncontested boss kills is what ruins this for you I'd move on to another game where your 3 raid hours per week is better spent on guaranteed fights.

I guess I sometimes wonder this in reverse: If you want to be a hardcore raiding guild doing bleeding edge content and gaining pride in your accomplishments, why not play another game? You know, one with actual bleeding edge content and stuff.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess I sometimes wonder this in reverse: If you want to be a hardcore raiding guild doing bleeding edge content and gaining pride in your accomplishments, why not play another game? You know, one with actual bleeding edge content and stuff.

Haha fair enough. I think what you'll find is that there isn't a game with the open competition like you find on P99 anymore. EVE was fun but seems like with the skill progression the big names have an insurmountable lead in that game.

The other factors; this server is free, I don't want to spend the time developing another character, I'm already in a top raid guild and don't want to jump through the hoops required to get here again in another game. Maybe in a few years I will, but the time commitment simply is not an option for me personally. It's much easier to log in when I get a text, kill something, then log back out.

[Tewaz]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's much easier to log in when I get a text, kill something, then log back out.

Why don't you just go play on a private server that spawns a raid mob every three days on a variable? Sounds like you would enjoy it more.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why don't you just go play on a private server that spawns a raid mob every three days on a variable? Sounds like you would enjoy it more.

Why don't you go play on a server where you have GM capabilities, can spawn anything whenever you want, kill it, loot it, then go back to your family?

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha fair enough. I think what you'll find is that there isn't a game with the open competition like you find on P99 anymore. EVE was fun but seems like with the skill progression the big names have an insurmountable lead in that game.

The other factors; this server is free, I don't want to spend the time developing another character, I'm already in a top raid guild and don't want to jump through the hoops required to get here again in another game. Maybe in a few years I will, but the time commitment simply is not an option for me personally. It's much easier to log in when I get a text, kill something, then log back out.

While I appreciate your attempt at candor, I don't know how much of this is based in reality. I believe you when you say one reason you stay here is that it's free. I have long suspected the denizens of P99 are largely unemployed or underemployed. I also understand not wanting to go through the bizarre hurdles required by raid guilds to gain membership.

Other than that, it's all rather disingenuous. Saying you don't have the time to commit to raid in another game and then stating you get texts and then log in to raid is totally counter-intuitive. I mean, being available to raid at the drop of a tweet is a far greater time commitment than anything I can imagine in any other game. For that matter, other games do have open-world raid mobs to sate your competitive desires, and some even avoid instanced content, altogether. The only really unique thing about Classic EQ is the Tunnel and the naked corpse-running. You could level to cap and be a bleeding-edge content-devourer within two months in WoW, and then you could minimize the impact the game had on your life by setting two nights a week to raid.

See, I don't really believe your justifications. I believe you believe them, and you are no doubt really invested in them, but they just sound pretty fake. I think the joy taken in killing mobs on this server has more to do with depriving your perceived enemies of the kills than anyone would like to admit, because if you did admit it you'd feel pretty sad inside.