BDA to Phinigel

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by FatMice [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since the majority of BDA isn't on this server anymore. I implore you release all the information you have from "behind the scenes" on all of your raid petitions and how they were reviewed and ruled. Put it on reddit or something. I am sure many people would love to know.

Here's a shorthand of the petitions logged directly to my account from this forum.

6/12/12 - TMO Plane of Sky Griefing
This resulted in the TMO two week suspension after Sentenza kited Sky bosses to prevent BDA from killing them, and also to ensure TMO had Sirran to charm for the Efreetis and Eye.

6/26/12 - Dolic ninjalooting verix VP piece
Result was our guy got his VP piece, no idea what happened to Dolic for the infraction

8/12/12 - Venril Sathir FTE
We got FTE but no XP, had to move the loot over to us

10/21/12 - TMO training in Hate
This was back when you could straight sock. We were setup outside Inny's room, TMO decided to setup inside, then proceeded to "pull" through the BDA camp. Nothing was done, we were told we should have moved.

6/6/13 - Hate pathing exploit
We were trying to AE the zone and found a pathing exploit by standing on a particular rooftop, Nilbog fixed it super quick

7/27/13 - Fay FTE
This was just after FTE messages were added. We zoned into TD to see a lot of dead / rezzing Taken. We sent out our FTErs to find Fay, our ranger shoots one arrow and Fay is on him. We eventually kill Fay. GM shows up and gives the loot to taken. Apparently Eratani was kiting Fay the entire time from the wipe and we should have never pulled off him even though you can't kite and they were dead. Based on encounter logs he had been kiting for like 10 minutes or something. Zade ruled that ONLY FTE MATTERS NO MATTER WHAT (except for FE and cazic thules or something)

2/5/14 - FE had too many trackers at Vox
No punishment or mob concession of any kind

5/26/14 - someone ninja looted the Verona Tomb piece
It was eventually moved to our guy, pretty sure this was a funny thread

11/18/14 - got some accounts unsuspended after Culprit had access to them
Fucking culprit

4/10/15 - VP key MQ gone bad
Eunomia told me to go kick rocks as they do not support MQ errors

3/14/15 - Dolj blatantly training in Hate
Like super blatant, lots of fraps. Gingerz was DTed and suspended I believe

5/23/15 - Taken kiting Draco during a CT kill for like 4 minutes
Nothing done, Taken was told not to do that anymore

10/19/15 - Illegal statue kill
Divinity got FTE, Rampage killed, I don't think there was any real resolution

11/11/15 - Lodi KS by Clue
Our FTE and Clue KSed, loot reimbursed

12/6/15 - laundry list of ToV infractions by Rampage
Nothing done, ruling based on each wing is its own area. Only Rampage and Aftermath (or whatever Detoxx's guild at the time) knew based on a Skype convo that only those guilds were present for

12/27/15 - trained at ToV
This was when we cleared the first cubbies, pulled Ikatiar, then mid fight got raped by triplets and some other things, thanks aftermath. This was one of aftermath's "volume of offenses" infractions

12/30/15 - Awakened Draco stall
They stall tanked Draco for about 10 minutes while they downed all their adds, I think they lost a Draco attempt or two for it. I even tried to tell Eratani, he wouldn't listen

1/19/16 - trained in VP
Trash train dropped on us by Aftermath racing for PD, Sirken says they are likely guilty but the fraps weren't conclusive enough

1/26/16 - trained in VP
Aftermath was willing to hoshkar and their guys trying to camp out dragged him on us, the logs of Aftermath saying we kited hoshkar is also funny, another "volume of offenses" infraction

I think at this point Anichek and the other officers said I couldn't petition anymore. There's plenty of other petitions that went through numerous different BDA officers. Not listed is the Dinacarl train which Derubael swept under the rug.

[Swish]

Won't show the full petition text because brown nosing lol

[FatMice]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's a shorthand of the petitions logged directly to my account from this forum.

6/12/12 - TMO Plane of Sky Griefing
This resulted in the TMO two week suspension after Sentenza kited Sky bosses to prevent BDA from killing them, and also to ensure TMO had Sirran to charm for the Efreetis and Eye.

6/26/12 - Dolic ninjalooting verix VP piece
Result was our guy got his VP piece, no idea what happened to Dolic for the infraction

8/12/12 - Venril Sathir FTE
We got FTE but no XP, had to move the loot over to us

10/21/12 - TMO training in Hate
This was back when you could straight sock. We were setup outside Inny's room, TMO decided to setup inside, then proceeded to "pull" through the BDA camp. Nothing was done, we were told we should have moved.

6/6/13 - Hate pathing exploit
We were trying to AE the zone and found a pathing exploit by standing on a particular rooftop, Nilbog fixed it super quick

7/27/13 - Fay FTE
This was just after FTE messages were added. We zoned into TD to see a lot of dead / rezzing Taken. We sent out our FTErs to find Fay, our ranger shoots one arrow and Fay is on him. We eventually kill Fay. GM shows up and gives the loot to taken. Apparently Eratani was kiting Fay the entire time from the wipe and we should have never pulled off him even though you can't kite and they were dead. Based on encounter logs he had been kiting for like 10 minutes or something. Zade ruled that ONLY FTE MATTERS NO MATTER WHAT (except for FE and cazic thules or something)

2/5/14 - FE had too many trackers at Vox
No punishment or mob concession of any kind

5/26/14 - someone ninja looted the Verona Tomb piece
It was eventually moved to our guy, pretty sure this was a funny thread

11/18/14 - got some accounts unsuspended after Culprit had access to them
Fucking culprit

4/10/15 - VP key MQ gone bad
Eunomia told me to go kick rocks as they do not support MQ errors

3/14/15 - Dolj blatantly training in Hate
Like super blatant, lots of fraps. Gingerz was DTed and suspended I believe

5/23/15 - Taken kiting Draco during a CT kill for like 4 minutes
Nothing done, Taken was told not to do that anymore

10/19/15 - Illegal statue kill
Divinity got FTE, Rampage killed, I don't think there was any real resolution

11/11/15 - Lodi KS by Clue
Our FTE and Clue KSed, loot reimbursed

12/6/15 - laundry list of ToV infractions by Rampage
Nothing done, ruling based on each wing is its own area. Only Rampage and Aftermath (or whatever Detoxx's guild at the time) knew based on a Skype convo that only those guilds were present for

12/27/15 - trained at ToV
This was when we cleared the first cubbies, pulled Ikatiar, then mid fight got raped by triplets and some other things, thanks aftermath. This was one of aftermath's "volume of offenses" infractions

12/30/15 - Awakened Draco stall
They stall tanked Draco for about 10 minutes while they downed all their adds, I think they lost a Draco attempt or two for it. I even tried to tell Eratani, he wouldn't listen

1/19/16 - trained in VP
Trash train dropped on us by Aftermath racing for PD, Sirken says they are likely guilty but the fraps weren't conclusive enough

1/26/16 - trained in VP
Aftermath was willing to hoshkar and their guys trying to camp out dragged him on us, the logs of Aftermath saying we kited hoshkar is also funny, another "volume of offenses" infraction

I think at this point Anichek and the other officers said I couldn't petition anymore. There's plenty of other petitions that went through numerous different BDA officers. Not listed is the Dinacarl train which Derubael swept under the rug.

I honestly didn't expect a legitimate response to my post. Now that I see this, I don't think there really is a point to it all. Looks like as we already knew, GM abilities are either biased (tin foil hat much) or just pure laziness coupled with inconsistencies.

[Nibblewitz]

Our one petitionquest victory was dismantling the rotation.

Thanks Sirken!

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Our one petitionquest victory was dismantling the rotation.

Thanks Sirken!

Bit of an insult to the word "rotation" though when it was guaranteed pixels for the Class R assigned mobs for 2 out of 3 kills each time.

That's what's funny though about the BDA setup. A bunch of people bloated the guild out, stayed for a near impossible chance at pixels (loot council you know), then jumped ship when BDA were struggling without the steady stream they had during Kunark.

BDA say they left because the raid system here was a joke, but actually the system was a joke while they were pulling the strings... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Erati]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

7/27/13 - Fay FTE
This was just after FTE messages were added. We zoned into TD to see a lot of dead / rezzing Taken. We sent out our FTErs to find Fay, our ranger shoots one arrow and Fay is on him. We eventually kill Fay. GM shows up and gives the loot to taken. Apparently Eratani was kiting Fay the entire time from the wipe and we should have never pulled off him even though you can't kite and they were dead. Based on encounter logs he had been kiting for like 10 minutes or something. Zade ruled that ONLY FTE MATTERS NO MATTER WHAT (except for FE and cazic thules or something)

I have told you so many times ( and to Contemptor ) what happened and you continue to believe I was kiting Fay after the wipe. No sir, I saw us in the process of wiping and egressed to chessboard isle bc I knew I would be our last hope to try to salavge another attempt. I healed up and let us recover as long as I could, as soon as BDA zoned in I was out looking for the fish again. I FTE'd somewhere behind raptor isle and as I was circling back past chessboard to start the long pull in yes a BDA ranger hit it with an arrow pulling it off of me since I only had social/face aggro on Faydedar ( it was very scary, my first dragon pull)

So even though I told you guys in /ooc we had FTE you guys didnt listen, pulled it in and killed it.

I won that Pod btw which made my epic - was pretty sweet. Thats what happened, I can try to find logs of me egressing as Faydedar wiped the 14 people we tried to engage with.

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[Nibblewitz]

Please use the petition subforum to address this bullshit.

[arsenalpow]

Kited

[Daldaen]

How many petitions have you filed on Phinigel???

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many petitions have you filed on Phinigel???

Two. Once to try and get the apostrophe in Bregan D'Aerth, and the second one to change my name from Chestt to Chest once I found out that Vesza saved the name for me but the renaming potion wouldn't accept "Chest"