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[Pringles]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The obv thing is to talk with the leaders of the guild whom currently reside in the slot u were goin to attempt

hard to believe an entire council couldnt forsee skipping that step would cause problems

[Soandso]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The obv thing is to talk with the leaders of the guild whom currently reside in the slot u were goin to attempt

hard to believe an entire council couldnt forsee skipping that step would cause problems

[Joyelle]

Originally Posted by HallygukRZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After some more weeks here on the sky rotation thread without results, we had a long internal discussion how to proceed. We concluded that our only option to raid upper isles is to do it on a day of our choice, and that informing anyone of a planned raid would most likely lead to the same destructive approach that BDA is doing on fridays. That is why we did not contact Taken beforehand.

So never in your lengthy deliberations did you even think to contact Taken directly to try to work out a deal since our Sky day happens to be the most convenient for you? You openly admit to covert operations to screw over our guild for your personal gain. You rightly deserve whatever is coming to you, because you brought it upon yourselves.

Originally Posted by HallygukRZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ask yourself: What would you have done in our situation?

I am confident that our leadership would have made an exhaustive effort to contact the appropriate parties and broker some sort of deal if we were in your situation. The fact was not that nobody was willing to work with you, but you were unwilling to put forth the effort to peacefully negotiate for what you wanted. I think you may have been surprised at the results had you simply asked directly.

[William_Munny15]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The obv thing is to talk with the leaders of the guild whom currently reside in the slot u were goin to attempt

hard to believe an entire council couldnt forsee skipping that step would cause problems

[-Catherin-]

This is more of the same that I have already heard from other members/officers/council/whatever of Europa.

I also have logs from the same sources admitting that you knowingly did not contact us, knowingly went into sky behind our backs, and knowingly cleared up on our time slot. And knowingly making the decision to not contact us to try to negotiate.

Because in your paranoia you assumed we would not negotiate, and we would make a point to make sure you would not be able to make that clear. You were totally wrong about that. We would have been more than willing. Things may be a bit different now though.


This was not a random decision. This was not targeted at random either. It was premeditated and executed knowing full well what you were doing, and who you were doing it against. And when your "council" was approached, we were met with outright hostility and rudeness. So again we ask why?

You are again being willfully blind to what you don't want to see and what actually happened, and anyone who can read between the lines already sees there is more to this than your statement. So just come out with it already

I don't speak for Taken. But I am pretty sure after these actions there can still be negotiation, but not before restitution

[-Catherin-]

Last post for now.

I'll tell you guys a cool story.

Because of how we do our weekly sky clears, if you had just contacted us you would have been able to do sky Thursday night every single week and not have to be stuck with a 14 day rotating shift.

As a result of your attitudes however, and complete lack of goodwill, you may not even get that now

[khanable]

Originally Posted by HallygukRZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and that informing anyone of a planned raid would most likely lead to the same destructive approach that BDA is doing on fridays.

Destructive yet CLEARLY necessary.

[Stinkum]

I dislike Taken, but it's hard to slice this situation in any way other than Europa being extremely in the wrong.

[Trouble]

Originally Posted by Trouble [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reason Europa didn't say anything to anyone about when they were going up is because they tried to warn a guild of their poaching before they did it in the past and they got outpoached.

Originally Posted by HallygukRZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We concluded that our only option to raid upper isles is to do it on a day of our choice, and that informing anyone of a planned raid would most likely lead to the same destructive approach that BDA is doing on fridays.

Nailed it!

[Bazia]

got into it with a taken dude today