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Old 11-25-2014, 10:34 AM
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Old 11-25-2014, 11:48 AM
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When someone is trialed for charges against them, found not guilty through evidence, and people start thrashing their own fucking city about... I'd say it isn't big government that is the root of the problem. Had that happened down here, there would be boarded windows with a few shotguns to each house, loaded and eager to please the mother fuckers behind the trigger who see someone fucking with their shit before the police ever arrive. Same story, different career. The police in Ferguson are there for protection, not intimidation... And apparently they fucking need it with all the terrorizing they are doing to themselves.
You're a complete fucking idiot and should never speak again. Grand Jurys are not triers of fact. They exist to soley to determine if there is probable cause which is a very low standard of proof, often cited as a "fair chance" an action or at most 51%.

Officer Wilson may very well be innocent but the decision should have been made by a jury of his peers, not golfing buddies of the DA.

The citizens of Furgeson were robbed of due proceeds rights.
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Old 11-25-2014, 11:50 AM
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Mad much?

Grand jury heard a lot more evidence and eyewitness testimony than anyone in this thread.
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Old 11-25-2014, 12:09 PM
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Grand jury heard a lot more evidence and eyewitness testimony than anyone in this thread.
That's kind of exactly the problem.

A lot of other cases get the public eye. Doing it behind closed doors like this is a GREAT WAY to fuel the rage and conspiracy theories.

"Good job, idiots" is really all I have to say today.
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Old 11-25-2014, 12:18 PM
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It is very rare for prosecutors fail to secure indictments. But you're right, the Grand Jury did hear a lot more evidence than the public.

However, because the burden of proof is so low and the are more than enough public allegations / evidence to support such a burden they would basically need to be able to show beyond a reasonable doubt or at clear and convincingly that no wrong doing occured which is very unlikely.

Much more likely is the fact that the DAs office has a vested interest in not prosecuting local police whom they work closely with or the grand jury, technically drawn from a pool of registered voters (but most often the DAs golfing buddies) disn't want to indict a police officer.

See recent Houston Chronicle investigation into this very issue at http://m.chron.com/local/investigati...rt-1-24419.php
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Old 11-25-2014, 12:21 PM
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That's kind of exactly the problem.

A lot of other cases get the public eye. Doing it behind closed doors like this is a GREAT WAY to fuel the rage and conspiracy theories.

"Good job, idiots" is really all I have to say today.
Exactly. Officer Wilsonmay very well be innocent but he should be found so in a court of law not a back room where only Prosecutor is allowed and in this case he's feeding them potentially exculpatory evidence instead of trying for an indictment.
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Old 11-25-2014, 12:27 PM
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"Good job, idiots" is really all I have to say today.
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Old 11-25-2014, 12:29 PM
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It is very rare for prosecutors fail to secure indictments. But you're right, the Grand Jury did hear a lot more evidence than the public.

However, because the burden of proof is so low and the are more than enough public allegations / evidence to support such a burden they would basically need to be able to show beyond a reasonable doubt or at clear and convincingly that no wrong doing occured which is very unlikely.

Much more likely is the fact that the DAs office has a vested interest in not prosecuting local police whom they work closely with or the grand jury, technically drawn from a pool of registered voters (but most often the DAs golfing buddies) disn't want to indict a police officer.

See recent Houston Chronicle investigation into this very issue at http://m.chron.com/local/investigati...rt-1-24419.php
Bingo - even in instances where they have hard evidence of wrong doing prosecutors will frequently let the police off the hook on general principle. What did you think this was about, justice?
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Old 11-25-2014, 12:34 PM
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Bingo - even in instances where they have hard evidence of wrong doing prosecutors will frequently let the police off the hook on general principle. What did you think this was about, justice?
Just pointing out Furgeson citizens have every right to be mad not that I'm encouraging rioting.
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Old 11-25-2014, 12:39 PM
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Just pointing out Furgeson citizens have every right to be mad not that I'm encouraging rioting.
Its ok man, we can agree.
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