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[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your guild didn't have any of the second part, just a single person that ate a DT, which oddly enough, is something that happens on failed FTE snipes.

Basically, your guild didn't decide that they were pulling until after they found out that the person who ate a DT managed to also have FTE.

Pretty much sums up the whole situation haha

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Normal DTs are in shouts.

CT has his Zonewide DT list that starts on aggro and then he has his shout (like Innys). It's not a harm touch, it's a DT, like every other mob that DTs.

AKA, you have Cazic's touch list and then you have his death touch shouts. They both do the same basic thing.

Sochin went to pull, even if it took him a second to get DT'd, his pull partner should have been on the aggro list as well (if they were actually trying to pull)

Sochin is the only person on the aggro list from the other guild.

AKA. failed FTE snipe, they thought they didn't have FTE and made up the Pull story afterwards.

Please, by all means, tell me how they were pulling if what I'm saying is incorrect.

He (or his guild) can make up whatever story they want about their plans. It still does not change the fact Scorchin had FTE on the encounter log because CT never reset. Whether Scorchin died by a some variant of DT or melee damage or another mob killing him is immaterial to him being the first on the encounter log and thus having FTE as defined by the server rules.

Now, if you want to get into further discussion about GMs applying a subjective analysis or additional requirements on top of the stated FTE rule in the raid rules thread, that is a whole other issue.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Heebo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only FE members either 1. Know they were trying to FTE snipe or 2. Are incapable of understanding a CT encounter. There's no need to keep saying the same thing 100 different ways.

[Sunnyvale]

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[radditsu]

To be honest I would love to see the entire ten thousand account per guild system to be completely destroyed and have a bunch of nimble smaller guilds competing with each other for content. Imagine if FE TMO BDA VD IB Divinity and the fucking A team were all 30ish max teams trying to get content from each other. If repops happened it would be amazing to see the racing and fighting to each target.
Instead TMO VS and Trak Squad log in at the same time, then evacing to try to snake sev/tal(which is just cash loot for them). Then they go for hate/fear and FTE snipe a guild that broke in the zone and cleared the way for the pull.

Instead we:
A) Get smaller, but more nimble, guilds absorbed into the TMO /BDA maw (VD, Enraptured) for pure numbers for 2 am batphones.
B) Having people buying quitters accounts (plat or $$$), and parking them all over the place. (Old IB)
C) Have the people with the least amount of social skills make all the rules while the administration turns a blind eye. These people grew up on a steady diet of 4 chan, Cat Memes, and Mountain Dew/Monster Energy Drinks. Instead of dismissing these people outright, they are given pats on the head by the stewards of fair play on this server. (GMs). Citing arbitrary rules to suit making a decision easy on them.

The worst part is when a group of people come together and fight this. As BDA attempted, as FE is doing. They are the ones who get the finger wagged at them, for doing the same exact things that the other guilds did to get on top in the first place. (FTE sniping and general raid douchebaggery).


You mother fuckers could have a Karanas, or Povar, or a dozen of other relatively peaceful and competitive servers. The people on this server settle for a fucking Fennin Ro or a Zek without the pvp.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To be honest I would love to see the entire ten thousand account per guild system to be completely destroyed and have a bunch of nimble smaller guilds competing with each other for content. Imagine if FE TMO BDA VD IB Divinity and the fucking A team were all 30ish max teams trying to get content from each other. If repops happened it would be amazing to see the racing and fighting to each target.
Instead TMO VS and Trak Squad log in at the same time, then evacing to try to snake sev/tal(which is just cash loot for them). Then they go for hate/fear and FTE snipe a guild that broke in the zone and cleared the way for the pull.

Instead we:
A) Get smaller, but more nimble, guilds absorbed into the TMO /BDA maw (VD, Enraptured) for pure numbers for 2 am batphones.
B) Having people buying quitters accounts (plat or $$$), and parking them all over the place. (Old IB)
C) Have the people with the least amount of social skills make all the rules while the administration turns a blind eye. These people grew up on a steady diet of 4 chan, Cat Memes, and Mountain Dew/Monster Energy Drinks. Instead of dismissing these people outright, they are given pats on the head by the stewards of fair play on this server. (GMs). Citing arbitrary rules to suit making a decision easy on them.

The worst part is when a group of people come together and fight this. As BDA attempted, as FE is doing. They are the ones who get the finger wagged at them, for doing the same exact things that the other guilds did to get on top in the first place. (FTE sniping and general raid douchebaggery).


You mother fuckers could have a Karanas, or Povar, or a dozen of other relatively peaceful and competitive servers. The people on this server settle for a fucking Fennin Ro or a Zek without the pvp.

Smaller guild sizes would just breed large alliances.

[Ilakje]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To be honest I would love to see the entire ten thousand account per guild system to be completely destroyed and have a bunch of nimble smaller guilds competing with each other for content. Imagine if FE TMO BDA VD IB Divinity and the fucking A team were all 30ish max teams trying to get content from each other. If repops happened it would be amazing to see the racing and fighting to each target.
Instead TMO VS and Trak Squad log in at the same time, then evacing to try to snake sev/tal(which is just cash loot for them). Then they go for hate/fear and FTE snipe a guild that broke in the zone and cleared the way for the pull.

Instead we:
A) Get smaller, but more nimble, guilds absorbed into the TMO /BDA maw (VD, Enraptured) for pure numbers for 2 am batphones.
B) Having people buying quitters accounts (plat or $$$), and parking them all over the place. (Old IB)
C) Have the people with the least amount of social skills make all the rules while the administration turns a blind eye. These people grew up on a steady diet of 4 chan, Cat Memes, and Mountain Dew/Monster Energy Drinks. Instead of dismissing these people outright, they are given pats on the head by the stewards of fair play on this server. (GMs). Citing arbitrary rules to suit making a decision easy on them.

The worst part is when a group of people come together and fight this. As BDA attempted, as FE is doing. They are the ones who get the finger wagged at them, for doing the same exact things that the other guilds did to get on top in the first place. (FTE sniping and general raid douchebaggery).


You mother fuckers could have a Karanas, or Povar, or a dozen of other relatively peaceful and competitive servers. The people on this server settle for a fucking Fennin Ro or a Zek without the pvp.

What makes you think smaller guilds are more nimble? There's plenty of small guilds right now that can't beat TMO in a race. If you're upset because TMO can split forces and still get all the dragons, just assume we have different guild names and your 30 member max scenario has already played out. In summation - you might be retarded.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Ilakje [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What makes you think smaller guilds are more nimble? There's plenty of small guilds right now that can't beat TMO in a race. If you're upset because TMO can split forces and still get all the dragons, just assume we have different guild names and your 30 member max scenario has already played out. In summation - you might be retarded.

You are more nimble due to reason B) RMTing old IB people and sitting them in places for an engage. Nice try tho.

[Allizia]

TMO is organized and focused within, sharing the same goals. Other guilds can rage or claim they will bust into the raid scene and dominate all they want, but no one is going to be able to compete unless they stop worrying about others(TMO) and focus within to get everyone up to speed on resist gear, motivation, organization etc.

FE for example should spend the time helping and getting everyone 60 and as much resist gear as possible, do a few fake mobilizations to find and correct issues (call an Inny raid and find who is not grouped buffed and ready to port up within 5 minutes), before the ruin moral by spending 2 days on trackers (then sleeping through VS spawn) or throwing 18 ungrouped people at trakanon.

Half of the rage in the thread is just penis envy based on lack of ability, it doesn't take that much commitment to be a good raider here (exception for poopsocking). If you want things to change, stop sucking and help each other towards a mutual goal before bragging and throwing yourself under the buss.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are more nimble due to reason B) RMTing old IB people and sitting them in places for an engage. Nice try tho.

old IB were bought with plat, IB RMT'd that plat.


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