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Old 07-17-2024, 03:41 PM
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The purpose of leveling is to have a great time playing a fun game with some chill buddies while exploring dungeons and finding some cool gear.

Once you hit 60 you might as well put the toon on the shelf and start a new one. You did it! You beat the game!
The mechanical purpose of leveling is to progress. That is fact. Of course people may never get to 60, but that doesn't change the purpose of the mechanic.

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More of your usual idiocy and twisting of what has been said.
I misread what you said, which is why I edited my post. Your attempt to claim this was a twisting of words is silly. I thought you meant a new server, which would change what people are doing. Leveling to 50 so they can get Manastones, for example.

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No they aren't. A pocket character is simply something you level up without the intent of playing it much and/or without giving it great gear. Sharing it is optional, and there is absolutely no concern of "items being stolen" anyway if you're playing with family or close friends.
Sharing is not optional when you need to res your own character, for example. You need to be logged in to the character being resed, and someone else is logged in to the pocket character. Any time you share account information, the risk of problems increases.
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Old 07-17-2024, 03:55 PM
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The mechanical purpose of leveling is to progress. That is fact. Of course people may never get to 60, but that doesn't change the purpose of the mechanic.
The purpose of playing is to have fun. Playing typically results in the acquisition of experience which inevitably leads to leveling.

You have a weird ass perspective on video games
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Old 07-17-2024, 03:56 PM
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The mechanical purpose of leveling is to progress. That is fact. Of course people may never get to 60, but that doesn't change the purpose of the mechanic.
The game design purpose of leveling is to create a skinner box to maximize player retention. See http://www.nickyee.com/eqt/skinner.html for more details.

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The purpose of playing is to have fun. Playing typically results in the acquisition of experience which inevitably leads to leveling.
I had a hell of a good time back in 1999 playing a level 10 troll SK with my buddy. We'd drink a bunch of in-game alcohol and go jump off the wizard pyramid and druid rings in S Ro. Not a lot of leveling, but a helluva fun time anyway.
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Old 07-17-2024, 03:59 PM
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The discussion simply says "best", which would encompass the entire range of gameplay by default. This includes endgame, and the purpose of leveling is to get to endgame.

You can of course add rules to change what is considered "best". Four Mages would probably be the best self found caster group for the first 20 levels. I doubt many people are min/maxing levels 1-20 though.
if you cared about being the best you wouldnt be in kittens, how would you even know.
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Old 07-17-2024, 04:17 PM
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if you cared about being the best you wouldnt be in kittens, how would you even know.
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Old 07-17-2024, 03:30 PM
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He’ll crack 2000 posts before the weekend. Funny thing is that if you run this list of the most prolific posters - none of them agree with DSM. He has gone completely off the rails at this point.

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Old 07-17-2024, 05:44 PM
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Old 07-18-2024, 04:59 AM
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Don’t forget evac and ports, a cleric can corpse lore drops, a druid can easily drop them off and gate back
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Old 07-18-2024, 08:44 AM
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Big + for druid if you're into chardunk, too.

With the exception of DSM, we're all agreed on enc / enc / cleric / X, with X most certainly not being shaman.

X is dependent on goals. Necro / mage / druid / wiz all bring unique strengths. If you're ever trying to be a hate snipe crew its gotta be wiz, otherwise pick necro for ultra undead spicy, mage for chill, and prob druid for all around QoL (and did I mention insane chardok fun?)
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Old 07-18-2024, 09:46 AM
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With the exception of DSM, we're all agreed on enc / enc / cleric / X, with X most certainly not being shaman.
Indeed. Additionally, the consensus is resoundedly that pocket characters have no place in this discussion would be unanimous but for DSM. Pretty sure we can consider that stupidity settled at this point.

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X is dependent on goals. Necro / mage / druid / wiz all bring unique strengths. If you're ever trying to be a hate snipe crew its gotta be wiz, otherwise pick necro for ultra undead spicy, mage for chill, and prob druid for all around QoL (and did I mention insane chardok fun?)
And that is ultimately going to be the capstone for this conversation. OP was frankly too vague to clarify this further. Each of the remaining casters other than shaman has a place in this group depending on the scope and goal of the group in question. If set criteria had been given on “best” (scope of the question) - a clearer answer would emerge.

I’m just glad the community (sans DSM) has narrowed the choice somewhat by removing shaman from the list of contenders. As much as I would have giggled my merry way along to see this thread drag on to 750-1000 pages - there really isn’t much more to share.

It would be funny if we could get this thread stickied at the top. I’m pretty sure we made forum history.
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