BDA to Phinigel - Page 468

entruil · #**4671** 11-18-2016, 06:19 PM

I'm all leo but still redder than cantankerous raph...

booter · #**4672** 11-18-2016, 06:33 PM

(chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMM

jcr4990 · #**4673** 11-19-2016, 04:13 AM

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So confirmed BDA is fucking awful at Everquest. Thanks for clarifying.

I'm not sure about awful but definitely not quite the same level as some of the top guilds. There's some really solid raiders in BDA without question. But there's definitely a very noticeable difference in the way raids are run between BDA and the more serious guilds. A much bigger difference than I expected to be quite honest. Guess I've just been out of the hardcore scene so long that over time I forgot how things are in the top guilds. I've had to step my game up quite a bit since switching guilds. I'm used to half an hour of afk/jackoff time after every boss while the elf council has a private meeting to decide which officer gets to loot the good stuff. Since joining OGC when loot drops I BARELY even have time to look at what dropped and see if its anything I'm interested in before mobs are being pulled to move to the next boss. In Ssra usually the next boss is half dead while we're still bidding on loot from the previous boss and loot doesn't take very long to do either.

Chest will insist the only difference is gear and he and his officers are the best leaders Norrath has ever seen because BDA has been a guild for a long time while other guilds have fallen apart. I never quite bought into that narrative even as a BDA member. Gear excuse doesn't really hold much weight anymore either considering BDA had basically an entire expansion of raiding under their belt prior to Luclin launching. You get a LOT of gear throughout the course of an expansion. Perhaps too much of that gear was in the hands of too few players? Uneven gear distribution could cause some raid performance issues I'm sure. But I'm fairly confident gear isn't the major difference here.

arsenalpow · #**4674** 11-19-2016, 05:11 AM

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I'm not sure about awful but definitely not quite the same level as some of the top guilds. There's some really solid raiders in BDA without question. But there's definitely a very noticeable difference in the way raids are run between BDA and the more serious guilds. A much bigger difference than I expected to be quite honest. Guess I've just been out of the hardcore scene so long that over time I forgot how things are in the top guilds. I've had to step my game up quite a bit since switching guilds. I'm used to half an hour of afk/jackoff time after every boss while the elf council has a private meeting to decide which officer gets to loot the good stuff. Since joining OGC when loot drops I BARELY even have time to look at what dropped and see if its anything I'm interested in before mobs are being pulled to move to the next boss. In Ssra usually the next boss is half dead while we're still bidding on loot from the previous boss and loot doesn't take very long to do either.

Chest will insist the only difference is gear and he and his officers are the best leaders Norrath has ever seen because BDA has been a guild for a long time while other guilds have fallen apart. I never quite bought into that narrative even as a BDA member. Gear excuse doesn't really hold much weight anymore either considering BDA had basically an entire expansion of raiding under their belt prior to Luclin launching. You get a LOT of gear throughout the course of an expansion. Perhaps too much of that gear was in the hands of too few players? Uneven gear distribution could cause some raid performance issues I'm sure. But I'm fairly confident gear isn't the major difference here.

I'm fairly confident that you're an idiot. You raid with a guild that's been split raiding every expansion since the beginning of the server so your guild is way way way overgeared and smashes content as a result. You're absolutely clueless about how BDA is run, how we do things, and the speed at which we do them because when we started raiding in earnest you had already quit because you didn't get a Vulak robe.

bigbard1 · #**4675** 11-19-2016, 07:55 AM

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I'm fairly confident that you're an idiot. You raid with a guild that's been split raiding every expansion since the beginning of the server so your guild is way way way overgeared and smashes content as a result. You're absolutely clueless about how BDA is run, how we do things, and the speed at which we do them because when we started raiding in earnest you had already quit because you didn't get a Vulak robe.

Did you guys give your first aten neck to a bst? I legitimately don't know the answer.

AzzarTheGod · #**4676** 11-19-2016, 08:07 AM

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Did you guys give your first aten neck to a bst? I legitimately don't know the answer.

The question of the day.

bigbard1 · #**4677** 11-19-2016, 09:29 AM

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Bruno · #**4678** 11-19-2016, 11:06 AM

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Did you guys give your first aten neck to a bst? I legitimately don't know the answer.

As much as I despise their bullshit dkp system, it doesn't even matter. Most guilds are well beyond the we're gearing up specific classes to down mobs phase, especially after downing emp. Two of our bards have it, but we don't do loot council.

jcr4990 · #**4679** 11-19-2016, 11:09 AM

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I'm fairly confident that you're an idiot. You raid with a guild that's been split raiding every expansion since the beginning of the server so your guild is way way way overgeared and smashes content as a result. You're absolutely clueless about how BDA is run, how we do things, and the speed at which we do them because when we started raiding in earnest you had already quit because you didn't get a Vulak robe.

I'm clueless about how BDA is run? Lol if you say so dude. I'd say I know a fair amount. If I was clueless about it I'd probably still be in the guild. We had everything in the game on farm status before I quit raiding. The fact that VT is taking you 6 hours with 60 people tells me things haven't changed much since I raided actively. Still spending too much time loot counciling. People still AFKing/fucking around too much. DPS classes not playing anywhere near optimally. I wasn't any more geared than any of the other necros while I was raiding but still pulled like 2x the dps of most of them. Have any of the wizards figured out how to top the parse yet? Or are the tanks still not able to generate enough aggro for them to do so?

bigbard1 · #**4680** 11-19-2016, 11:42 AM

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I'm clueless about how BDA is run? Lol if you say so dude. I'd say I know a fair amount. If I was clueless about it I'd probably still be in the guild. We had everything in the game on farm status before I quit raiding. The fact that VT is taking you 6 hours with 60 people tells me things haven't changed much since I raided actively. Still spending too much time loot counciling. People still AFKing/fucking around too much. DPS classes not playing anywhere near optimally. I wasn't any more geared than any of the other necros while I was raiding but still pulled like 2x the dps of most of them. Have any of the wizards figured out how to top the parse yet? Or are the tanks still not able to generate enough aggro for them to do so?

I'm a wizard missing 2 pieces of gear (yes empty slots) and I'm between 1-3 every fight on parse. BDA fucking sucks.