Project Quarm - 1 Box Planes of Power

[ashentco]

Originally Posted by rhold [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess I am not as nostalgic as most to go thru all of the phases as I wasn't at the tip of the curve ever. The vast, vast majority of players have never had Legacy items on Live or P99.

I would think that just releasing it at the end of it's incarnation to start with would draw the most people.

9 months wait from release to be an Iksar. 27 month wait to be a Vah Shir or a Beastlord.

I don't understand the purpose of holding content back just to hold it back.

It isn't just to hold back content.. it's just that the eras are followed on a progression project like this. You want Vah Shir to be coded to start in Qeynos or something? Iksar to pop out of Grobb just because?

I personally don't think that would bother me that much, but it is completely silly. I do know that Maze made a project a few years ago where Kunark was going to come out in 3 months or whatever, so no one wanted to reroll immediately so he allowed Iksar to come out of Grobb and it worked out fine, I don't think anyone minded that much. But it's just part of classic eq, these races didn't exist yet.

It's even more complicated talking about Beastlords. There's no spell vendors or anything set up for that, not to mention balance. They come out in Luclin, you gotta wait.

[rhold]

Originally Posted by ashentco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It isn't just to hold back content.. it's just that the eras are followed on a progression project like this.

I understand the progression concept. P99 blue finished it's progression 8 and a half years ago. I would wager that a large portion of those playing now started playing after the progression had already ended.

Originally Posted by ashentco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You want Vah Shir to be coded to start in Qeynos or something? Iksar to pop out of Grobb just because?

No. It's not about what I want. It was a discussion on releasing all content at once instead of waiting until 2026 for the release of PoP.

Originally Posted by ashentco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I personally don't think that would bother me that much, but it is completely silly. I do know that Maze made a project a few years ago where Kunark was going to come out in 3 months or whatever, so no one wanted to reroll immediately so he allowed Iksar to come out of Grobb and it worked out fine, I don't think anyone minded that much. But it's just part of classic eq, these races didn't exist yet.

I wasn't advocating for changing any of the content.

Originally Posted by ashentco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's even more complicated talking about Beastlords. There's no spell vendors or anything set up for that, not to mention balance. They come out in Luclin, you gotta wait.

Right. And my question basically was: What is gained by arbitrarily holding back content vs just releasing it all?

[Swish]

If you're itching to play a beastlord head on over to www.takproject.net -- its a good time there [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're itching to play a beastlord head on over to www.takproject.net -- its a good time there [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can confirm. Coming from p99 there are some client differences on TAKP for sure and many from p99 bounce off there for a reason or another. But those that stick around TAKP sometimes like it better. Very easy to raid over there. Personally both p99 and TAKP are my two favorite EQ Emu and hoping to add PQ to the mix shortly upon release.

[Trexller]

will 3rd for TAKP

it's a vastly superior EQ experience if you're intelligent and mature enough to understand why 3 boxing is not game-breaking.

and Secrets is actively removing literally everything about TAKP that makes it better than p99.

I was excited for the project until I saw that it's gonna be nothing but a P99 clone that goes until PoP after 35 years.

been there, done that.

[Vormotus]

I personally plan to enjoy a good romp on quarm once it launches, I play a crapton of mmos, and one that is like p99 but that has beastlords and a 1 box only policy sounds like my jam, even if its just 100 weirdos like me.

I mean, this is a game so old that in some countries it could have kids, a crap job , and a small hovel to call home already, so we are all weirdos to be here getting dopamine or RMT $ off this game.

I welcome quarm with open arms... It launches on October btw to those that dont know it.

[Evia]

3 boxing might not be game breaking, but it sucks.
seeing someone playing 3 characters first of all is just immersion breaking, it also destroys the whole traditional group dynamic imho.
is it still grouping with 5 other player characters? yeah. but its just one other person. it's not the same experience.
it also encourages me to do the same if I want to have all the edges possible in the game like the other players. and we all know EQ is all about getting every edge you can.
the bottom line is boxing doesnt feel like everquest at all. maybe for players who have always boxed it feels like home? but not for someone who never did.
idk what kind of intelligence or maturity i need to gain or stumble upon to enjoy it but it's not happening.



so with all that said i'm looking forward to quarm. idk if it's going to replace p99 for me, but i'm open minded to check it out.
I also don't think it's a bad thing that secrets is doing some p99 type changes. tbh I bet 75% of the quarm player base is gonna be p99ers...might as well hit your target audience.

[Trexller]

"WOO TAKP IS OPEN SOURCE, TIME FOR A NEW SERRRRVERRRRR"

"nah fuck it, im just gonna copy and paste P99"

"yeahhh that's an original take on a dead and beaten horse"

[Evia]

i suppose you can look at it like that
i see it more like Secrets is trying to take the best from both worlds
or at least what he thinks is the best of both worlds
might as well take everything youve learned and gathered from deving eq emu servers
and apply it to the one you're going to do yourself.

thats how i see it anyway

[Trexller]

yeah ill just start mid-velious or some shit when all gear is dirt cheap and i can get ready for luclin/pop