Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shaman/Enchanter/Monk work well because a monk doesnt have the hitpoints of a well chosen charm pet so ya pathetic (in compariison to cleric) heals will do.

Last time I checked there is an enchanter in the group. They do indeed have a fully kitted out charmed pet in this combo, and the Shaman keeps the party alive just fine.

The normal Fungi King setup is an Enchanter with a hasted/torched froggie pet, a Torpor Shaman, and a Monk puller. The Torpor Shaman slows, tanks, heals, and malos, and the Pet/Monk hit the mob from behind.

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretending that you have the same ability to quickly and effectively react to a charm break on a tanking Shaman

I've done it before. Remember that you didn't understand the Shaman is tanking instead of the enchanter pet just a few posts ago. You thought the Shaman was Torporing a tanking pet. It is not suprising you wouldn't know this either.

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've done it before. Remember that you didn't understand the Shaman is tanking instead of the enchanter pet just a few posts ago. You thought the Shaman was Torporing a tanking pet. It is not suprising you wouldn't know this either.

I understand that perfectly well. I also understand there are plenty of times when you WON'T be Torpor tanking, like the entirety of levels 1-59, for example.

The Cleric, meanwhile, is completely mogging you with his 20pp CH spell from level 39.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The normal Fungi King setup is an Enchanter with a hasted/torched froggie pet, a Torpor Shaman, and a Monk puller. The Torpor Shaman slows, tanks, heals, and malos, and the Pet/Monk hit the mob from behind.

The fact that every fucking example you toss out is either Fungi King or WW dragons will never not be hilarious.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand that perfectly well. I also understand there are plenty of times when you WON'T be Torpor tanking, like the entirety of levels 1-59, for example.

The Cleric, meanwhile, is completely mogging you with his 20pp CH spell from level 39.


The fact that every fucking example you toss out is either Fungi King or WW dragons will never not be hilarious.

I provide examples, and you don't. Glad I could teach you a few things about Shamans today!

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I provide examples, and you don't. Glad I could teach you a few things about Shamans today!

Allow me to instruct you.

Ogre/Troll Shaman: 15-20% XP penalty
Any race Cleric: 0% XP penalty

Shaman: Dead weight 1-59, best spell at 60 and costs $$$$
Cleric: Absolute unit 1-60, best spell at 39 and costs 20pp

Shaman: Relies on pocket Cleric to rez him
Cleric: Rezzes himself like a boss

Shaman: Virgin, malodorous, probably fat irl
Cleric: Chad, bathed in holy light, totally jacked

Enchanter/Cleric duo: ding 60 in record time, leveling in high ZEM dungeons, ez farming whatever they want
Enchanter/Shaman duo: Enchanter dumps Shaman when he realizes Shaman is a fat, useless sack of shit
Shaman: forced to solo, can barely play the game through his tears, equips GEBs and considers it the greatest moment of his life, after thousands of hours of grinding and farming, finally dings 60 and saves up enough plat to acquire Torpor...

...which he buys, while impotently seething, from the Enchanter/Cleric who farmed it months earlier (their third copy).

It didn't have to be this way, DSM. But this is the life you chose when you forsook divine service of the gods in favor of your dismal swamp magic.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Allow me to instruct you.

Ogre/Troll Shaman: 15-20% XP penalty
Any race Cleric: 0% XP penalty

Shaman: Dead weight 1-59, best spell at 60 and costs $$$$
Cleric: Absolute unit 1-60, best spell at 39 and costs 20pp

Shaman: Relies on pocket Cleric to rez him
Cleric: Rezzes himself like a boss

Shaman: Virgin, malodorous, probably fat irl
Cleric: Chad, bathed in holy light, totally jacked

Enchanter/Cleric duo: ding 60 in record time, leveling in high ZEM dungeons, ez farming whatever they want
Enchanter/Shaman duo: Enchanter dumps Shaman when he realizes Shaman is a fat, useless sack of shit
Shaman: forced to solo, can barely play the game through his tears, equips GEBs and considers it the greatest moment of his life, after thousands of hours of grinding and farming, finally dings 60 and saves up enough plat to acquire Torpor...

...which he buys, while impotently seething, from the Enchanter/Cleric who farmed it months earlier (their third copy).

It didn't have to be this way, DSM. But this is the life you chose when you forsook divine service of the gods in favor of your dismal swamp magic.

Thank you for continuing to concede via trolling. It is impressive you can write so much and say nothing.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is impressive you can write so much and say nothing.

You have the single highest number of posts in the thread, yet zero posts containing evidence of a Shaman root rotting adds parallel to their group, and zero posts in which you list a camp that needs a Shaman.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

evidence of a Shaman root rotting adds parallel to their group

anytime im playing shm and doing the CC in a group I click epic on every mob that I root

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

zero posts in which you list a camp that needs a Shaman.

myconid spore king

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

anytime im playing shm and doing the CC in a group I click epic on every mob that I root

So what you're talking about is rooting mobs that your group has pulled/is actively trying to kill then and tossing a DoT on them, NOT your Shaman root rotting mobs parallel to the group/independently of the group. Got it. (Are you also the primary healer, and tanking for this group? Just curious!)

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

myconid spore king

DSM has also touted/pointed at this camp a lot himself, but the camp doesn't NEED a Shaman.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So what you're talking about is rooting mobs that your group has pulled/is actively trying to kill then and tossing a DoT on them, NOT your Shaman root rotting mobs parallel to the group/independently of the group. Got it. (Are you also the primary healer, and tanking for this group? Just curious!)

yeah that's happened a few times but definitely not the workload im trying to assume as a shm in an xp group.

im also pulling, tracking spawn times, beating rogue dps, fulfilling reimbursement petitions, resolving guild disputes, poppin sick 360 no scopes, negotiating peace in the middle east and switching Biden's amphetamine cocktail with melatonin gummies

Originally Posted by cyxthryth;3690448DSM

has also touted/pointed at this camp a lot himself, but the camp doesn't NEED a Shaman.

is seb king possible without a shaman? yes

is it 1000x better with a shaman? fuck yes

id take a shm over ench at seb king anytime any day even if our best dps is a paladin

but that's like the only group camp in the game where that's true

but if i can have shm and ench, also fuck yes

[Jimjam]

 

QUOTE=bcbrown;3690163]I'll take that as agreement.

One of the areas of synergy is with stuns. Enchanters have their own stuns, so it's not necessary, but it is helpful. If a cleric is quick with a stun, when the enchanter is interrupted or otherwise fails to get a stun off, that can save the enchanter a lot of trouble.[/QUOTE]

Specifically damageless stuns. Like a wizard has to be super careful trying to help out, whereas a cleric can just go in willy and indeed nilly.

Sorry didn’t realise how far behind i was on the discussion!!