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12-11-2015, 08:02 PM
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this thread is about what to do with no varianced dain's spawning after a failed ring war because in the past 200+ people show up and create havoc that is unnecessary. if the staff want us to leave them up to be DT'd then that would require require a 4 word post. If they dont care either way then neither should any of you. velious isnt going anywhere, the server has hit its ending point for content, the number of dain heads on the server is completely nonconsequential, it literally means nothing.
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12-11-2015, 08:03 PM
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Instead of playing the "holier than thou" card and tossing around accusations of cheating and exploiting, why dont you think of a solution? You've already stated that trying the Ring War isnt the issue, so what do we do with the Dain that spawns if we fail? Also, according to your rationale, anyone who takes a TL box is exploiting.
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12-11-2015, 08:27 PM
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It's pretty simple. We're guests here. By logging in, we tacitly agree to keep the server rules. One of those rules is not to exploit buggy shit. If Dain is buggy and we're keeping our end of the deal, we leave Dain up. At that point, it becomes the Staff's problem and they make an amendment one way or another (which, by the way, I called for). As it stands, it's not yours to kill because it's buggy any more that it would be your call, if you were a guest in my house, to determine that you had the right to drink all of my beer (without invitation) because it was nearing the best by date. Or because someone else might drink it. So you didn't answer my question: do you need to be told not to exploit every exploitable bug? To answer yours: you're a guest here. Follow the house rules. If one of them is not to exploit bugs, don't do it. Leave Dain up if it's a buggy Dain. That's their problem to solve, not yours. I understand the situation and it's admittedly a tough one. Especially absent intervention. I really don't care what Forsaken chooses to do. But couching it in the terms that everyone is gonna exploit a buggy Dain so let's figure out how to cooperate in the exploitation is pretty bankrupt given the rules that we all agree to follow when we log in. This really shouldn't be our problem. And guilds shouldn't be put in the position to need to figure out how to solve it - or what to do about it themselves. It's a 3+ month bug that hasn't been fixed yet (nor has any punishment been meted out for clearly violating house rules...so why bother keeping them?) - and given the nature of the sever and human nature, I do understand that the situation is pretty untenable.
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12-13-2015, 02:40 AM
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#1)We want them to fix buggy stuff and so we ask them to. #2)We take matters into our own hands rather than letting GMs handle it by player made agreements that usually involve breaking server rules. #3)GMs know they are at fault so they don't punish players for breaking server rules. #4)Because players are killing Dain there is no game breaking urgency by him being left up, therefore, no real problem in the coding. #5) No problem=no solution. I'm happy coming up with all the player made agreements that are needed to make this a saner happier world, heck, if you all know me at all you know I'm 100% for them! But they can't include any party knowingly breaking server rules. All it takes is a GM to say either "yes, Dain is allowed to be killed after a failed ring war even though we know it is an exploitation." or "We will be killing Dain after each war, do not attempt to engage him." until this bug is fixed. One line of text from a GMs mouth solves all of this.
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12-26-2015, 07:19 PM
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Did Trampage actually exceed 100 combined? i know we started the event around low 80s. Additional people outside our two guilds were mostly just picking off one shots for faction.
Was a combination of a good group of people that has already shown they work well together, and some pretty decent spawn positions on the giants. it only got a little crazy at the very end when we had a spawn all the way to the east followed by another all the way to the west and then one right up the middle. But was handled beautifully. | ||
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12-26-2015, 07:22 PM
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Not sure of the time accuracy, stole it from another thread. And its a zonewide, not just Trampage.
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[ANONYMOUS] Xatum <Europa> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [55 Master] Slapt (Human) [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [53 Wanderer] Smallpawx (Wolf) <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [56 Luminary] Suntrader (Barbarian) <Ill Tempered Sea Bass> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Sorcerer] Varzii (Dark Elf) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Zatsum <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [48 Warrior] Spare (Ogre) [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Grandmaster] Southpaws (Iksar) <Rampage> LFG [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Warder] Leod (Wood Elf) <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Warlock] Mannymoejack (Skeleton) <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Nibblewitz <Bregan D`Aerth> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Assassin] Grumpy (Dwarf) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Woms [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Warder] Eliena (Human) <Europa> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Warlord] Trilok (Iksar) <Azure Guard> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [49 Magician] Saltwater (Dark Elf) <Azure Guard> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Sorcerer] Astro (Erudite) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 High Priest] Sudlarvn (Gnome) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Tacotunes <Azure Guard> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [53 Channeler] Noldun (Dark Elf) <Azure Guard> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Sorcerer] Toverland (Gnome) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Oracle] Pyrocat (Dark Elf) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [51 Rake] Penee (Wood Elf) <Bregan D`Aerth> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [59 Blackguard] Katierakel (Wood Elf) <Forsaken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Grandmaster] Yaolin (Human) <Azure Guard> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 High Priest] Lenu (Dwarf) <Azure Guard> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Pimpeck <Azure Guard> LFG [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 High Priest] Halliel (High Elf) <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Assassin] Kinglance (Barbarian) <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Phantasmist] Ciixual (Erudite) <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [59 Defiler] Eyermtd (Skeleton) <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Warlord] Gorruk (Ogre) <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Oracle] Jonasty (Troll) <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Assassin] Fuge (Dwarf) <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Hierophant] Indefinite (Wood Elf) <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Grandmaster] Maori (Iksar) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [57 Troubadour] Maestroni (Human) [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Phantasmist] Naldiane (High Elf) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Phantasmist] Hyjal (Dark Elf) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Assassin] Prollapse (Dwarf) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Warder] Skydash (Wood Elf) <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 High Priest] Kimanna (High Elf) <Azure Guard> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Crusader] Thadew (Human) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Nerakim <Europa> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Grandmaster] Enthusiast (Human) <Azure Guard> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Phantasmist] Dwyn (High Elf) <Europa> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Warlord] Meefus (Ogre) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Durzoblint <Bregan D`Aerth> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Sorcerer] Bluemagic (Dark Elf) <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Warlord] Naethyn (Human) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 High Priest] Faumieni (High Elf) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Grandmaster] Henrique (Iksar) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Oracle] Tardars (Barbarian) <Azure Guard> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Arch Mage] Breaken (Human) <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Grandmaster] Nolos (Iksar) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Grandmaster] Diamondfist (Iksar) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [56 Preserver] Jobbe (Wood Elf) [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Grandmaster] Rainbowcop (Human) <Clue> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Grandmaster] Padilla (Human) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Arch Mage] Sweeni (Dark Elf) <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Oracle] Eroqa (Skeleton) <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Virtuoso] Downstairs (Gnome) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Moonwood <Azure Guard> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Warlock] Phiren (Skeleton) <Azure Guard> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [58 Templar] Bellossom (Gnome) <Azure Guard> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Hierophant] Briscoe (Human) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Assassin] Snackon (Human) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Grandmaster] Violint (Iksar) <Bone Diddlies> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Assassin] Froogle (Halfling) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Grandmaster] Hokushin (Human) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Assassin] Koraf (Dwarf) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Sorcerer] Sojutsu (Dark Elf) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Warlock] Isham (Erudite) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Warlord] Aldred (Troll) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Assassin] Azeth (Barbarian) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Assassin] Enorm (Skeleton) <Rampage> LFG [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [56 Luminary] Ghostfacez (Iksar) <Azure Guard> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Grandmaster] Kautin (Dark Elf) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Sorcerer] Atmas (High Elf) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Jhar [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Hierophant] Kenilu (Wood Elf) <Taken> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Warlord] Lassmiranda (Skeleton) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 High Priest] Xerra (High Elf) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Assassin] Izaic (Barbarian) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [55 Revenant] Tsuko (Dark Elf) <Azure Guard> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] [60 Assassin] Figher (Dark Elf) <Rampage> [Sat Dec 26 12:53:33 2015] There are 101 players in Great Divide. | ||
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