Bundy Ranch - more than just cattle

[Scrooge]

Originally Posted by Quineloe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do realize that entire article is nothing but copypasta from the Daily Mail, one of the worst pieces of Mainstream yellow press?

It's completely lacking depth

Does that make the article and the photos in it, any less real?

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Scrooge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does that make the article and the photos in it, any less real?

Yellow means propoganda. Yellow journalism. Words mean things.

[Quineloe]

Originally Posted by Scrooge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does that make the article and the photos in it, any less real?

Of course not, and it shows clearly the government escalated the violence first, but that's the only thing we can actually take from there. The entire background of the story is basically untouched. I've read all kinds of numbers regarding the ranchers in the region. Some claim, thousands of ranchers are paying these fees np, others claim Bundy is actually the last rancher still in the area, there used to be 53 ranches, today just his remains. Which one is it?

If it's true the BLM made 98% of all Ranchers shut down their business, one has to wonder what the motivation behind that is - and don't tell me it's some stupid mojave desert tortoise, no one believes that.
However, if Bundy really is one out of hundreds and he's the only one not paying the fee while the others do and still make a profit (another claim I've read was that the fee ate up all his profits, that's why he stopped paying as well, also unverified) then it's really a completely different scenario.

As for the government violence, this really is nothing new. Standard operating procedure for LEOs these days is eliminate all resistance by any means necessary, then sort out the ashes. It really seems like they're bringing attack dogs they're barely controlling in on purpose to trigger a self-defense response from the enemy, and then take that self defense as a reason to go all out, just like a few weeks ago in breaking bad town when they executed the homeless guy.

[radditsu]

Even a Wesley Snipes has to pay taxes. Pay your taxes.

[Scrooge]

Originally Posted by Quineloe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course not, and it shows clearly the government escalated the violence first, but that's the only thing we can actually take from there. The entire background of the story is basically untouched. I've read all kinds of numbers regarding the ranchers in the region. Some claim, thousands of ranchers are paying these fees np, others claim Bundy is actually the last rancher still in the area, there used to be 53 ranches, today just his remains. Which one is it?

If it's true the BLM made 98% of all Ranchers shut down their business, one has to wonder what the motivation behind that is - and don't tell me it's some stupid mojave desert tortoise, no one believes that.
However, if Bundy really is one out of hundreds and he's the only one not paying the fee while the others do and still make a profit (another claim I've read was that the fee ate up all his profits, that's why he stopped paying as well, also unverified) then it's really a completely different scenario.

I've read articles from other sources too, that Bundy actually is the last rancher in the area now, cause the Federal Land Grab is trying to clear everyone out. One of the reasons is, there's a major military installation in the area, and other reasons have something to do with China buying up land for God knows what. I can't say I fully understand the govt's motives, but the people are not in the wrong here, that much I do understand!

Here's another update: http://www.pakalertpress.com/2014/04...f-bundy-ranch/ and another, from yesterday http://www.pakalertpress.com/2014/04...-cliven-bundy/

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because they now try to hide their ignorant troll threads in the off topic forum. I must bring the troll threads into the light and hang them in the village square. All this shit should be moved to RNF where it can be torn apart as it deserves to be. So sayeth the Pootie. Amen

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because they now try to hide their ignorant troll threads in the off topic forum. I must bring the troll threads into the light and hang them in the village square. All this shit should be moved to RNF where it can be torn apart as it deserves to be. So sayeth the Pootie. Amen

Pootie betta footy tai... bamma lammy..

[formallydickman]

Hah, I'm originally from around there. Bundys are self-entitled pricks 9 times out of 10, so I'm not surprised they are the ones not playing by the rules. Federal grazing laws are well below market-price, and here's a fun tid-bit-- Mormons surrendered the entire Utah territory (Nevada used to be part of that territory) way back in 1850 something after the federal government invaded and occupied. I love this stuff, sensationalism at its finest.

[BigHurb]

Originally Posted by formallydickman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hah, I'm originally from around there. Bundys are self-entitled pricks 9 times out of 10, so I'm not surprised they are the ones not playing by the rules. Federal grazing laws are well below market-price, and here's a fun tid-bit-- Mormons surrendered the entire Utah territory (Nevada used to be part of that territory) way back in 1850 something after the federal government invaded and occupied. I love this stuff, sensationalism at its finest.

anyone else care to revise their White-Knighting of the White Man on indian land? sounds like you all been duped like.. dupes

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pootie betta footy tai... bamma lammy..

Bad bitty. So hard-a tar for you nowdiggy.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y587UlBV9jg