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Old 07-15-2010, 05:11 PM
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critics are your best friends

Unless they criticize in a manner that cause you to feel totally devastated...

...in which case, maybe they aren't your friends because they are insensitive to you?

...in which case, maybe you're too sensitive to the criticism?

...in which case, maybe you realize the accuracy of their critique and realize just how much you may need to correct changes you have implemented?

...in which case, maybe you had unrealistic expectations of your friends the critics; you expected them to support you no matter how wrong you were?

anyways, critics are your most loyal players or they would have left the server already

think about it before we keep this adulation going and yes, without nilbog we would all still play wow or any other b-rated mmorpg out there.
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Old 07-15-2010, 05:16 PM
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Awesome job DEVS! Thanks for Project1999!

And on the side note, this is just my opinion. I am not worrying at all that if the Project1999 is “OFF” one way or another from the old “Live Classic”. As long as everyone’s playing by one rule and it’s consistent.
For me EQ Classic is all about game dynamics. This is the only reason I play it. No other MMO game has it.
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Old 07-15-2010, 05:35 PM
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critics are your best friends

Unless they criticize in a manner that cause you to feel totally devastated...

...in which case, maybe they aren't your friends because they are insensitive to you?

...in which case, maybe you're too sensitive to the criticism?

...in which case, maybe you realize the accuracy of their critique and realize just how much you may need to correct changes you have implemented?

...in which case, maybe you had unrealistic expectations of your friends the critics; you expected them to support you no matter how wrong you were?

anyways, critics are your most loyal players or they would have left the server already

think about it before we keep this self-adulation going and yes, without nilbog we would all still play wow or any other b-rated mmorpg out there.
I'm yet to find a critic that has made me feel totally devastated. When I find one I'll let you know. Critic's don't mean shit overall. How can you even begin to form a basis of criticism when our goal is laid out, but our method is not? How can you begin to form a basis of criticism when we do this at no predetermined pace or promise of a pace? These would be blatant bitching & whining. You can certainly have an opinion, but we don't give a shit about opinions outside of the dev room. So, to this I say that all critics as you have outlined are baseless with regard to the project and provide no general benefit.

Those that are of benefit are folks like MMiles08 who does his research. Jete is another example. THOSE are the true fans of the project. The ones that take their time to help us along the way. The ones that give us good data and feedback. Not the sense of entitlement Children of Warcraft that have been fostered by gaming these days. This is nearly a black and white issue: You either help with the scope of the project, or you hinder. I say nearly because there will be those that experience nothing they perceive out of the ordinary. The ones that find bugs and don't report them or worse, exploit them are a hindrance, and those that report after research are the helpers.

Besides, being nice, concise & intelligent goes way, way, way farther than "YTOUR SIHT"S BROKE YOU DUMB FCUK!". The 2nd route gets your issue moved to the "Sometime after Velious" box.

Ask yourself which side of the line you fall on with regard to help or hindrance and then, maybe you'll begin to get on track with what we try to do here. This isn't coombaya, it's trying to resolve and recreate something that has been called impossible.

And to that end, I will continue to break down those that choose to sit on a high horse and talk down to the development staff of this project. I'll rip you off your god damn horse then draw and quarter you with it. We don't ask for adulation or reverence, all we want is the respect that normal people show each other. If that is a too foreign a concept, please hoist yourself by your own pitard.
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Old 07-15-2010, 06:01 PM
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As a new member to this server I just want to say that myself and my wife have really enjoyed ourselves. For a few years now I have been wandering from one game to the next to only get bored within a few days after playing.

This server has really lit a desire to get home from work and play again. I am very grateful for what you have done.

I can only look forward to getting familiar with this game again to eventually have the honor to hunt or raid with you people who have built this server and its community. I admire what you have done and wish I had the skills to be an actual productive member of this server. (I do sometimes get my hands on retired servers that are not very old and work great that I would be willing to donate. Just let me know the specs you require and the next time I get one I would be happy to ship it out to you if you need it.)

Sadly the way some people behave here is an example of the way society is becoming. More and more people are being raised with a sense of self entitlement. I am a PC tech and more often over the years I see people come into my shop with their kids and they just let them run around and grab what ever they want and just pretend nothing is happening.

I have had kids run behind my front counter and head into my shop, start hitting keys on keyboards and I am the one who has to tell them to not touch. While the parent is wanting me to devote my attention to their issue and not their kids ripping my shop apart. That is what the cry babies on this board remind me of.

Since the late 80's to early 90's it seems people raise their children to believe that the world is there for their amusement and it creates self centered people who we now see growing into adults that behave in the maner we often see on these boards.

Well for those who like to bitch and whine all I have to say is that the world does not center around you and the people who devote their time to making this server don't owe you shit. If you think you are so smart and can do better then what the Devs have done here then go make your own server and leave us who are having a good time here alone.

Anyway its time to close up shop and go home to play some EQ. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you see a young Druid named Dolahn with his lovely monk wife Luhnee please feel free to stop and say hello. We love making new friends and to do our best to be an active contributer to the community.

Thanks again guys for your efforts. There are several hundred of us playing that love what you have done. Don't let the 20 or 30 asshats that think they know everything make the rest of us who enjoy the fruits of your labor undermine our appreciation for what you do.

Simply put.... Thanks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 07-15-2010, 06:08 PM
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I just want to thank everybody. The devs hard work is very appreciated, and flamers, whiners, intentional trainers, exploiters... if it weren't for you all, this server wouldn't feel nearly as classic as it does
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Old 07-17-2010, 05:00 PM
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critics are your best friends

Unless they criticize in a manner that cause you to feel totally devastated...

...in which case, maybe they aren't your friends because they are insensitive to you?

...in which case, maybe you're too sensitive to the criticism?

...in which case, maybe you realize the accuracy of their critique and realize just how much you may need to correct changes you have implemented?

...in which case, maybe you had unrealistic expectations of your friends the critics; you expected them to support you no matter how wrong you were?

anyways, critics are your most loyal players or they would have left the server already

think about it before we keep this adulation going and yes, without nilbog we would all still play wow or any other b-rated mmorpg out there.
Kind of. There are people who review things and do quite a good bit of work. These are the critics that are useful (as long as they aren't just parroting what's already been brought to their attention). Then there are the : this game sucks balls why did you ban me for three box duping crystalline spears yo?

The difference is important and Nilbog and others have acknowledged those with their concerns and if you search this forum you'll find most of the questions have either been answered via patch notes, the FAQ, or their posts.

I personally don't agree with all the changes (Translocators, manastone/guise ever being in, raid camping ruleslol) but they've given plenty of reason for why they do what they do, most of it relating to previous decisions and classic feel.

There are people who criticize to improve, there are people who are trying to get their way in a way, and then there are haters. I believe they've had just about enough of the haters. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Old 07-15-2010, 10:42 AM
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Donate folks! even 5s and 10s add up!
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Old 07-15-2010, 11:43 AM
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So you got a few jerk PM's last night. I have no idea who you all are in game so it sure as hell wasn't me. So why come here and flame all of us? I think this thread and the other one which it was linked to should just be deleted.
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:48 PM
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Why don't we just start blanket banning the trolls? Nothing says we HAVE to keep them around. I kinda like the koombaya.
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:51 PM
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Why don't we just start blanket banning the trolls? Nothing says we HAVE to keep them around. I kinda like the koombaya.
I hear what you're saying, but personally I like the fact that the Devs aren't afraid to 1) take a bit of criticism, and 2) give it right back tenfold. I support the Devs 100% but I don't think an Iron Fist approach is the right way to go. The kiddies running SoD use that approach and I wasn't impressed with it at all.
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