About Spawn variance....

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by mmiles8 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ima school you all on proper statistics yet.

As you can see from my latest spreadsheet, there's an inverse relationship between the ratio of your perceived value of your opinion to your opinion's actual importance.

I've graphed the data in both linear and logarithmic scales, to edify the implications.

What does this mean for the average forumgoer? Well, statistically speaking, the bigger of an asshat you are, the greater the probability you look like a fool. It's an exponential trend, folks. I'm just sayin.

Is someone is still using 2003?? pfft

[mmiles8]

2007 fails. I ran windows 98 until 2005. I still write up my research in notepad. Not a fan of Bloatware.

And yes you can use that.

[Evorix]

A lot of you are mistaken on the current spawn variance... maestro/draco are 3days +/- 12 hours for a total 24 hour window. Gods/dragons are 7days +/- 24 hours for a total of 48 hours window. There are not 48 and 96 hour windows.... they are 24 and 48. The only reason DA/IB (and now WI) camps for days on end is because we get there before the window even begins to hold claim. These guilds are the ones who deserve the kills for the amount of time they spend camping them. You are not going to zone in and be able to kill a god/dragon when you have other guilds putting more effort. A lot of you people are simply tryin to be jackasses saying we have no jobs etc when this is false. We are simply keeping EQ loaded... Its really not that hard.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Evorix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A lot of you are mistaken on the current spawn variance... maestro/draco are 3days +/- 12 hours for a total 24 hour window. Gods/dragons are 7days +/- 24 hours for a total of 48 hours window. There are not 48 and 96 hour windows.... they are 24 and 48. The only reason DA/IB (and now WI) camps for days on end is because we get there before the window even begins to hold claim. These guilds are the ones who deserve the kills for the amount of time they spend camping them. You are not going to zone in and be able to kill a god/dragon when you have other guilds putting more effort. A lot of you people are simply tryin to be jackasses saying we have no jobs etc when this is false. We are simply keeping EQ loaded... Its really not that hard.

So it is not -/+ 48 hours its +/- 24 hours from 7 day spawn?

[Evorix]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So it is not -/+ 48 hours its +/- 24 hours from 7 day spawn?

Correct.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Evorix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only reason DA/IB (and now WI) camps for days on end is because we get there before the window even begins to hold claim. These guilds are the ones who deserve the kills for the amount of time they spend camping them. You are not going to zone in and be able to kill a god/dragon when you have other guilds putting more effort.

There's so much wrong with this I don't even know where to start, lol.

Do you really believe time spent camping = effort? I can tell you this...the devs didn't intend nor expect that...matter of fact they thought it was so insane no one would do it. Same with the rest of us, lol.

So...if you think that's effort and competition, well...I feel sad for ya. Like I said tho...most of us ain't gonna do that, and you can have fun with it.

We can only hope it'll change come Sky.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by mmiles8 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2007 fails. I ran windows 98 until 2005. I still write up my research in notepad. Not a fan of Bloatware.

And yes you can use that.

Lol, we still use 2003 for data imports/SQL operations at the major research University at which I work...I agree, 2007 is so weird. They made it more posh than useful...

My laptop still runs XP, although i've heard windows 7 isn't terribly bad, it's just the security features that are annoying.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's so much wrong with this I don't even know where to start, lol.

Do you really believe time spent camping = effort? I can tell you this...the devs didn't intend nor expect that...matter of fact they thought it was so insane no one would do it. Same with the rest of us, lol.

So...if you think that's effort and competition, well...I feel sad for ya. Like I said tho...most of us ain't gonna do that, and you can have fun with it.

We can only hope it'll change come Sky.

What, exactly, is effort in an MMO other than time spent to achieve a set goal?

[Evorix]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What, exactly, is effort in an MMO other than time spent to achieve a set goal?

Couldn't have said it better than myself. We put in the time to camp the mobs to earn the kill over other guilds that do not put in the time. Simple as that.

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So...if you think that's effort and competition, well...I feel sad for ya. Like I said tho...most of us ain't gonna do that, and you can have fun with it.

That is your opinion... is why you aren't killing the named bosses and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What, exactly, is effort in an MMO other than time spent to achieve a set goal?

Yah OK, bro. Your logic is irrefutable. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not gonna go off on a side argument when we all know camping for days on end was never intended, and it's not in the spirit of the game.

I'd much rather see the trains and FFA, or the calendar rotations that were "classic" EQ if ya wanna go in that direction. I don't remember a server one where guilds camped boss spawns as a norm, and got away with it for long.