Lysergic/Tajin - Scammers Beware

[Argh]

Originally Posted by Tajin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The guy handed in the wrong piece, he said he got the dragon mq from someone, assuming freddi... so we went to Forpar in SF for the hand ins....so we did the hand ins, i handed in my Mystical lute head, and he said he got the piece. so we went to DL to complete, i handed in all the rest of the pieces i had, page 24 top/bottom,25 and hes suppose to hand in the piece from Forpar. I petitioned and tried to get everything back but its whatever, i tried to help him, its not like i ignored him, id told him that id give him his pp(which he got lets just say via blackmarket) back once i hear from Rog, either good or bad. But i spose this the route taken. If this were EQ live back in prime i might have been upset about being "blacklisted" but since its not, ima enjoy my holidays, and hope yall do as well!!

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[mefdinkins]

I just want to mention the concept of 'moral hazard.' It's an economic theory that a party will take additional risks if the costs of the risk will not be felt by the party taking the risk.

Many people attribute the economic meltdown that started ~2008 to 'moral hazard. Banks were more willing to make risky economic investments because they knew the government would bail them out if their high risk investments failed.

It's concerning to me when high end guilds respond to someone who has been scammed on an MQ by giving them the MQ. Let's say down the line someone sees a "ESTABLISHED GUILD" tagged applicant selling a necro epic for 200k and they figure "hey if I get scammed "ESTABLISHED GUILD" will just MQ me my epic." It creates a situation where a lot of people are willing to take unnecessary MQ risks and the costs only falls on the 'established guilds.' There should be some level of personal responsibility while trying to get an MQ done.

I do not mean to comment on guild affairs or interfere with anyone's personal business, I do not have enough information to make any comment about the situation these parties are in, but I just wanted to mention something I found relevant.

[BrendockMerryfoot]

Well, if you aren't Nuvar still I apologize for throwing his name in. However, I grouped with both Lysergic and Nuvar in Crypt within the past 2-3 weeks (seperate groups, not at the same time) and BOTH characters had the pull message "Fuck The Miami Heat". When I saw that as Nuvar's pull message I mentioned something that happened in the previous group with Lysergic and, after playing dumb for a minute, he admitted it was the same person. Of course, I have no proof-- there was no need to screenshot something like that.

Edit: also, both chars have the behavior of immediately looting anything that drops and holding it until rolls are done.

[Lammy]

Lysergic owes me 5k from a football bet. Scumbag.

[IronShank]

Originally Posted by Tajin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i traded Tajin, and Nuvar..... So if yall are gonna hate, hate me... Don't take it out on the current owners.. They arent involved in this clusterfuck....

Well that's a pretty big piece of the puzzle.

[Spitty]

Originally Posted by mefdinkins [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just want to mention the concept of 'moral hazard.' It's an economic theory that a party will take additional risks if the costs of the risk will not be felt by the party taking the risk.

Many people attribute the economic meltdown that started ~2008 to 'moral hazard. Banks were more willing to make risky economic investments because they knew the government would bail them out if their high risk investments failed.

It's concerning to me when high end guilds respond to someone who has been scammed on an MQ by giving them the MQ. Let's say down the line someone sees a "ESTABLISHED GUILD" tagged applicant selling a necro epic for 200k and they figure "hey if I get scammed "ESTABLISHED GUILD" will just MQ me my epic." It creates a situation where a lot of people are willing to take unnecessary MQ risks and the costs only falls on the 'established guilds.' There should be some level of personal responsibility while trying to get an MQ done.

I do not mean to comment on guild affairs or interfere with anyone's personal business, I do not have enough information to make any comment about the situation these parties are in, but I just wanted to mention something I found relevant.

I'm saddened that this artifact of wisdom will ultimately be lost or nefariously implemented on this server.

[p99lover]

Perhaps a more thorough investigation to determine the guilty parties before making a public display of this.... "innocent until proven guilty?"

[Argh]

Originally Posted by p99lover [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perhaps a more thorough investigation to determine the guilty parties before making a public display of this.... "innocent until proven guilty?"

Lysergic had already been blacklisted by mostly everyone that has been in seb in the last month or so. In one day he managed to get blacklisted from 3 different guilds. A running joke in any group you were in would be somehing like, 'hey guys, got a rep for me, inv Lysergic'

[Ele]

Originally Posted by p99lover [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perhaps a more thorough investigation to determine the guilty parties before making a public display of this.... "innocent until proven guilty?"

When did a witch hunt ever hurt anyone?

[Zeelot]

Originally Posted by Tajin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The guy handed in the wrong piece, he said he got the dragon mq from someone, assuming freddi... so we went to Forpar in SF for the hand ins....so we did the hand ins, i handed in my Mystical lute head, and he said he got the piece. so we went to DL to complete, i handed in all the rest of the pieces i had, page 24 top/bottom,25 and hes suppose to hand in the piece from Forpar. I petitioned and tried to get everything back but its whatever, i tried to help him, its not like i ignored him, id told him that id give him his pp(which he got lets just say via blackmarket) back once i hear from Rog, either good or bad. But i spose this the route taken. If this were EQ live back in prime i might have been upset about being "blacklisted" but since its not, ima enjoy my holidays, and hope yall do as well!!

Screenshots don't match this story at all. You told Kugfuk the following:

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Bard epic final turnin = "Give Page 24 top, page 24 bottom, page 25 and Forpar’s Lute to Baldric Slezaf, receive Singing Short Sword"

You never had forpor's lute, never handed it in, and scammed him. To make Forpar's lute you need Trak guts.