Rotations =/= handouts

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know that TMO has killed Trakanon over 200 times. That is 400 to 1000 trak teeth for VP keys? How many fucking more trak teeth do you need to bank? How many more guts do you think you need to sell to bards at 750kpp for their epic to keep the RMT / alt buying business going?

Sharing is caring. The monopoly needs to stop.

At least 7 more of each.

[heazels]

best solution imo, ban tmo from killing trak, naggie, vox.

[heartbrand]

Man, if only there were a way you could fight TMO and other guilds trying to monopolize spawns rather than be powerless. Shucks.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sharing is caring. The monopoly needs to stop.

How many times has BDA actually camped out and even attempted to engage Trak, VS, CT, or otherwise? You have people willing to track. You have people on a batphone. And, you have people willing to answer said batphone...

BDA said it was impossible to compete with TMO when a handful of members broke off and formed FE. Those members camped out at trak for months, waking up at strange hours to watch TMO get the engage and kill trak, yet we still kept trying. 5 months later we had our first VP kill. Stop saying it's not possible/it's a monopoly when you don't even make an attempt.

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[quido]

I like it when derpstars accuse TMO of guild-wide RMT. Crazyeyes RMTed of his own accord and if we'd known about it he'd have been instantly removed. TMO has never bought accounts as a guild.

Any plat we earned was put back into the guild (BCGs, Thex Daggers, Prenerf Fungis, Red Dragonscale BPs, etc).

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by goshozal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Their viewpoint is no less arbitrary than yours.

No, it isn't. Because you guys have been playing VarianceQuest (hereafter referred to as VQ), which is not classic. So if some sort of raid agreement is worked out and people can get back to playing EQ rather than VQ, it's not a handout. Because VQ was an arbitrary non-classic impediment introduced by the server admins. People talking about handouts would be like MLB players after drug testing 'oh these people get to play without shooting up'. VQ is harder than EQ, so if you've been succeeding at VQ your attitude is that ordinary EQ is trivial. Well, I'm sorry, but that's the game.

Originally Posted by Turp

Everquest is one of the few games that if you get the dragon loot, you know you worked for it.

Like Maksim, you are confusing VQ and EQ. Killing PD is not hard, as the pickup raids proved. Your achievement is exploiting non-classic CSR and variance rules.

Originally Posted by Fabben

As angry as Loraen is at everyone, I can respect and agree with the fact that raiding with less people is a lot more fun. However, I have no idea what your post is for...

Using generic memes like 'u mad bro' when not called for . . . admits he cannot understand OP . . . no wit or panache . . . 2/10 forumquesting level

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it isn't. Because you guys have been playing VarianceQuest (hereafter referred to as VQ), which is not classic. So if some sort of raid agreement is worked out and people can get back to playing EQ rather than VQ, it's not a handout. Because VQ was an arbitrary non-classic impediment introduced by the server admins. People talking about handouts would be like MLB players after drug testing 'oh these people get to play without shooting up'. VQ is harder than EQ, so if you've been succeeding at VQ your attitude is that ordinary EQ is trivial. Well, I'm sorry, but that's the game.



Like Maksim, you are confusing VQ and EQ. Killing PD is not hard, as the pickup raids proved. Your achievement is exploiting non-classic CSR and variance rules.



Using generic memes like 'u mad bro' when not called for . . . admits he cannot understand OP . . . no wit or panache . . . 2/10 forumquesting level

VQ > PQ

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't understand how getting free shots at dragons is not the same thing as being handed the dragon. I think the old Tmo stranglehold blew just as much as the rest of you guys but rotating kills and removing all challenge from the game sounds so much worse. Imagine how long the lines for dragons would be if everyone decided they wanted to try the 15 man dragon challenge.

Originally Posted by Turp_SmokinPurp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you make the game easy mode you might as well rename it Classic EZ server.

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many times has BDA actually camped out and even attempted to engage Trak, VS, CT, or otherwise? You have people willing to track. You have people on a batphone. And, you have people willing to answer said batphone...

BDA said it was impossible to compete with TMO when a handful of members broke off and formed FE. Those members camped out at trak for months, waking up at strange hours to watch TMO get the engage and kill trak, yet we still kept trying. 5 months later we had our first VP kill. Stop saying it's not possible/it's a monopoly when you don't even make an attempt.

[SwordNboard]

Keep variance, decrease timers drastically, whatever guild gets whatever target cannot get that target for 1 week. Repeat.