Putin for President

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well... for starters... you have more freedom here than anywhere else while having many luxuries also easily obtained...& thanks to the internet & freedom to post wtf we want. You can walk outside your abode to the nearest convenience store for whatever luxury item you may need at any given moment. Maybe when you go to bed at night the crickets chirping lull you to sleep instead of rockets exploding in the distance or fear of terror coming your way.

Maybe I am just more in tune with my patriotism since I am prior service & a veteran but I would think that most people would be much more willing to love their place of birth if not ever scrutinizing every flaw or negative facet of said easy living style.

Logging into playing a game a few or several+ hours a day = quite a disconnect from someone who has to travel miles for clean water, has no medical resources or is under a terror regime. No one wants to go to war but terrorism forces this upon us. The U.S. is where my ancestors fought & died to protect so I'd have to be an idiot to hand that away or just be indifferent to the problems; read as enemies foreign or domestic.

Don't' forget that the greatness of the USA you so love, came in part to that relentless scrutinizing criticism of it's patriotic citizens. The more we just don't care about what you may see as wonderful and let the rich truly entitled privileged people keep tearing apart our country.

The more poor masses they are going to order you to shoot under the name of domestic enemies of the STATE.

It is our duty to have a say and if we see something dumb say why. Don't just say people are stupid for calling our country unfree or whatever.

Because our country really is flawed and crippled right now. Turning a blind eye to it is going to accomplish the goals of those terrorists and heathens you so fear yourself.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well... for starters... you have more freedom here than anywhere else while having many luxuries also easily obtained...& thanks to the internet & freedom to post wtf we want. You can walk outside your abode to the nearest convenience store for whatever luxury item you may need at any given moment. Maybe when you go to bed at night the crickets chirping lull you to sleep instead of rockets exploding in the distance or fear of terror coming your way.

You have the exact same amount of freedom, safety, and access to luxury in Canada, most of Europe, Australia, Iceland, Japan, and New Zealand. In a lot of ways those places have more economic freedom than we do, because poverty is so much more rampant here.

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe I am just more in tune with my patriotism since I am prior service & a veteran but I would think that most people would be much more willing to love their place of birth if not ever scrutinizing every flaw or negative facet of said easy living style.

True patriotism is being able to criticize the things your country is doing wrong, because you want to see it improve. You can love your country without making inaccurate statements about it being "the greatest".

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Logging into playing a game a few or several+ hours a day = quite a disconnect from someone who has to travel miles for clean water, has no medical resources or is under a terror regime. No one wants to go to war but terrorism forces this upon us. The U.S. is where my ancestors fought & died to protect so I'd have to be an idiot to hand that away or just be indifferent to the problems; read as enemies foreign or domestic.

What about the fact that, until the Affordable Care Act, people were being laid off from their jobs, getting cancer or other terminal illnesses, and being left to die by the healthcare system because they couldn't get insurance? And the fact that even with the ACA, we're still paying nearly twice as much money per capita for healthcare than other developed countries which have superior healthcare outcomes? Or that 1 in 4 US children are on food stamps / nutritional assistance? Or that money rules our political system to a greater extent than any other rich nation?

It's absolutely pathetic, and it won't change if you pretend we're the greatest. We are systematically outperformed by our peers in every metric but military power.

[Whirled]

Yet immigration continues to grow.. meaning MORE people ARE coming here.
If it's SO bad here why do they keep coming... (even illegally as other have said here)

No one is forcing you or any one else to take that free medical care or government cheese but that sure is a very very loooong line that have their hands out taking the free ride and then criticizing it the second they're off to other things that fancy the ever expansive 21st century gadget-loving beings.

I'm didn't come here to argue over opinions. You asked me a question + I gave you MY opinion on this country. Any problems you have with authority take it up with your congress or political face in your locality. Me holding my country in high regards is no more different than seeing another person drive down the road in with a flag of Peru on their car. They love their country just as I do mine.

Is anyone's country free of corruption? Not a chance.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yet immigration continues to grow.. meaning MORE people ARE coming here.

Implying nobody ever immigrates to European nations.

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it's SO bad here why do they keep coming... (even illegally as other have said here)

Because places that are worse exist, the U.S. is suddenly the best? You didn't say "pretty good" "above average" or anything of that sort. You outright stated that the U.S. is the best, AKA #1 you didn't say "pretty good" "above average" or anything of that sort

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one is forcing you or any one else to take that free medical care or government cheese but that sure is a very very loooong line that have their hands out taking the free ride and then criticizing it the second they're off to other things that fancy the ever expansive 21st century gadget-loving beings.

Medical care in the U.S. is a for-profit industry. It's not free. It's not close to free. In fact it's the most expensive healthcare of any 'first world' nation.

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm didn't come here to argue over opinions. You asked me a question + I gave you MY opinion on this country. Any problems you have with authority take it up with your congress or political face in your locality. Me holding my country in high regards is no more different than seeing another person drive down the road in with a flag of Peru on their car. They love their country just as I do mine.

Is anyone's country free of corruption? Not a chance.[/QUOTE]
You made a statement on a publiic forum, someone asked you why, you then attempted to explain your position but used non-facts in your attempt. Lune isn't criticizing you as a person or even your opinion, he was correcting your incorrect information.

[Whirled]

I didn't know my opinions mattered so much to so many of you.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is still the greatest country regardless of how many people complain about who's in charge.

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why?

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well... for starters... you have more freedom here than anywhere else while having many luxuries also easily obtained...& thanks to the internet & freedom to post wtf we want. You can walk outside your abode to the nearest convenience store for whatever luxury item you may need at any given moment. Maybe when you go to bed at night the crickets chirping lull you to sleep instead of rockets exploding in the distance or fear of terror coming your way.

Maybe I am just more in tune with my patriotism since I am prior service & a veteran but I would think that most people would be much more willing to love their place of birth if not ever scrutinizing every flaw or negative facet of said easy living style.

Logging into playing a game a few or several+ hours a day = quite a disconnect from someone who has to travel miles for clean water, has no medical resources or is under a terror regime. No one wants to go to war but terrorism forces this upon us. The U.S. is where my ancestors fought & died to protect so I'd have to be an idiot to hand that away or just be indifferent to the problems; read as enemies foreign or domestic.

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

my opinions

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Worst backpedal ever.

[Nitsude]

Less of a backpedal, and probably more of an acknowledgement that he doesn't want to spend any more time with you.

[Whirled]

Originally Posted by Nitsude [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Less of a backpedal, and probably more of an acknowledgement that he doesn't want to spend any more time with you.

Well said & mostly true.

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