Rallos Zek, first server to kill the Sleeper :)

[Ridiuz]

Originally Posted by Kluren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First, Rallos Zek may have been the "best" pvp server but it most certainly was not the most challenging. The most challenging pvp server was SULLON ZEK.

Second, that UI is disgusting.

Come on now... I understand the limitations of only being able to pvp, and group with people of your own faction. But atleast you didn't have to worry about getting your gear jacked from you when you got PK'd. Dude from 6-30 my cleric was almost full cloth with some crappy earings/rings that I didn't mind if they got jacked. After I hit 30 I spent an ENTIRE month in Skyshrine camping Guardian Armor because it was No Drop. Do you think dying and losing experience was reason to rage enough? Try getting PK'd and losing your brand new chest piece you bought for 500pp! lol

Man I was a pro when it came to bagging my gear when a PK was kicking my ass. Now Rallos Zek is a real mans server where you seperate the boys from the men. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Threepoint]

Originally Posted by Ridiuz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Come on now... I understand the limitations of only being able to pvp, and group with people of your own faction. But atleast you didn't have to worry about getting your gear jacked from you when you got PK'd. Dude from 6-30 my cleric was almost full cloth with some crappy earings/rings that I didn't mind if they got jacked. After I hit 30 I spent an ENTIRE month in Skyshrine camping Guardian Armor because it was No Drop.

That's why RZ was the lamestpvp server. Along with the fact you had blacklists for people who actually participated (and had anti pk guilds w/e the fuck that means) in pvp and you had a 4 level range iirc.

Tallon/Vallon with coin loot only and 8 level range was the best. That is, until people started xteaming and pande took over.

[Rallyd]

I was playing Shadowseed (Wudan) and my brother was playing Zebis (Wudan)
during this encounter, was present for both days, hell of a fight.

For the record it was not bind rush, it was rez stick rush, 21 clerics spamming rez sticks to keep ahead of the DT's.

Pick up your weapons, and start hitting til you die, that was the strat.

This is one of the fondest memories of any MMO that we have to this day.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Threepoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's why RZ was the lamestpvp server. Along with the fact you had blacklists for people who actually participated (and had anti pk guilds w/e the fuck that means) in pvp and you had a 4 level range iirc.

Tallon/Vallon with coin loot only and 8 level range was the best. That is, until people started xteaming and pande took over.

Rallos is not lame. It's different and some can't handle it. Item loot is a lot different than just player vs player, its a whole other game. It effects every aspect of the game.

Being able to attack ANYONE you want and be able to take items is 10x as hardcore as moving the 4 level limit to 8. Coin loot means there is minimal risk.

Rallos = hardcore pvp

All the others were fun PvP but it didn't effect the game play the same way.

For you to say Rallos was lame because it had an anti pk list is weak, it should just tell you how hardcore it was. It's not like the community was that much different from the other servers, thats just how it adapted because of how tough the server was.

Instead of the game telling you who your enemies/allies were, the community decided it on their own and there was the option to be a traitor and change sides. Manipulation, backstabbing, true loyalty, all things that were on the Rallos Zek server that the others didn't have.

[Krolo]

Originally Posted by Threepoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's why RZ was the lamestpvp server. Along with the fact you had blacklists for people who actually participated (and had anti pk guilds w/e the fuck that means) in pvp and you had a 4 level range iirc.

Tallon/Vallon with coin loot only and 8 level range was the best. That is, until people started xteaming and pande took over.

Truth here.

The big guilds on Rallos Zek had regulations against "unauthorized" pvp. This meant anyone found pvping without their permission was blacklisted.

Whereas on Tallon Zek, the server couldn't even host GM events properly because before a GM could set up and explain the rules, people would already be murdering each other in mass.

As a comparative analogy:

Rallos Zek was the 8th grade prom of servers; the main guilds actively chaperoned and cock-blocked anyone from getting fucked on the dance floor.

Tallon Zek was the Johny Cash at Fulsome Prison; wall to wall mosh pit of the worst murdering raping necrophiliacs known, all wielding shanks ready to stab the next man in the face. It was great.

[taxi2]

Originally Posted by Ridiuz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Come on now... I understand the limitations of only being able to pvp, and group with people of your own faction. But atleast you didn't have to worry about getting your gear jacked from you when you got PK'd. Dude from 6-30 my cleric was almost full cloth with some crappy earings/rings that I didn't mind if they got jacked. After I hit 30 I spent an ENTIRE month in Skyshrine camping Guardian Armor because it was No Drop. Do you think dying and losing experience was reason to rage enough? Try getting PK'd and losing your brand new chest piece you bought for 500pp! lol

Man I was a pro when it came to bagging my gear when a PK was kicking my ass. Now Rallos Zek is a real mans server where you seperate the boys from the men. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I rolled a toon first on Sullon. Ill take losing a piece of gear and having to try to find no drop gear any day of the week over getting corpse camped by a lvl45 wizard in Blackburrow, which is what happened to me and made me switch to RZ. RZ was cool as hell but lets not kid ourselves here, SZ was much harder to play on.

As for Pk/anti-pk its simple. View it as "good vs evil". I was an Anti-pk. That doesnt mean i didnt pvp. It meant that guilds like flowers of happiness were KOS to me. I had that list people talked about. Someone killed or attempted to kill me, he was then added to the KOS list. I had plenty of people to kill only days after starting out so again its not like anti-pk meant anti-pvp.

[loneless999]

i remember this was in the bazaar was chatting in the serverwide necro channel and someone said RZ were doing sleeper so i joined another channel filled with people all wetting them selves over the fact he might be killed and what he might drop was exiting

on a side note there must have been some people casting rain spells over sleeper for fun
and people setteling some scores getting him hits in on other players

[Djanis]

Originally Posted by taxi2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I rolled a toon first on Sullon. Ill take losing a piece of gear and having to try to find no drop gear any day of the week over getting corpse camped by a lvl45 wizard in Blackburrow, which is what happened to me and made me switch to RZ. RZ was cool as hell but lets not kid ourselves here, SZ was much harder to play on.

As for Pk/anti-pk its simple. View it as "good vs evil". I was an Anti-pk. That doesnt mean i didnt pvp. It meant that guilds like flowers of happiness were KOS to me. I had that list people talked about. Someone killed or attempted to kill me, he was then added to the KOS list. I had plenty of people to kill only days after starting out so again its not like anti-pk meant anti-pvp.

Sullon came out after the prime time of Rallos had come and gone. I played on both, and I don't think it was harder on SZ. SZ already had preset territory and teammates (whether you wanted them on your team or not) right from the get go. Everybody was a potential enemy on RZ. I think original RZ was the hardest, although I'm sure it can be debated forever. One thing is for sure, safe zones ruined pvp for everyone, no matter what server you were on.

Lots of old names in this thread. Brings back some memories. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[jjgerman]

Originally Posted by Ridiuz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Come on now... I understand the limitations of only being able to pvp, and group with people of your own faction. But atleast you didn't have to worry about getting your gear jacked from you when you got PK'd. Dude from 6-30 my cleric was almost full cloth with some crappy earings/rings that I didn't mind if they got jacked. After I hit 30 I spent an ENTIRE month in Skyshrine camping Guardian Armor because it was No Drop. Do you think dying and losing experience was reason to rage enough? Try getting PK'd and losing your brand new chest piece you bought for 500pp! lol

Man I was a pro when it came to bagging my gear when a PK was kicking my ass. Now Rallos Zek is a real mans server where you seperate the boys from the men. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rallos zek was gay, 4 level gap, most good gear is no drop anyway, so u had to bag what? 2 items ? gtfo here lol

Tallon zek 8 level gap, first few months great server. Same with sullen, after the first year or so both servers were garbage.

Also tallon zek had item loot for several months, but it was quite gay in reality. Best u could hope for was an occasional SMR or something. Most people wernt stupid enough to wear anything good in big pvp battles.

[Koota]

Originally Posted by jjgerman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rallos zek was gay, 4 level gap, most good gear is no drop anyway, so u had to bag what? 2 items ? gtfo here lol

Tallon zek 8 level gap, first few months great server. Same with sullen, after the first year or so both servers were garbage.

Also tallon zek had item loot for several months, but it was quite gay in reality. Best u could hope for was an occasional SMR or something. Most people wernt stupid enough to wear anything good in big pvp battles.

Obviously you don't know what you're talking about. Early Rallos days there wasn't that much "good" no drop gear. Planes gear, but most people weren't wearing it. And additionally, to be viable in PvP you had to wear diamonds.

There was nothing quite like PvPing against an obviously naked person, time after time after time, and then rolling up on a comfortable group. Fully decked out in their SMRs, FBSSs, etc. Those moments of dropping Ice Comets on the group members made that server great.