Guild LNS

[Smedy]

Originally Posted by Aussie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There seems to have been abit of this happening lately, and I want to clear it up:

Guild leadership / officers are NOT required for a guild to call LnS as a whole

I don't know where this has come from, but our rules do not state this. Rules on this subject can be found in the following thread:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=148787

Pretty sure if it isn't stated in the rulebook there has been a typo. It's pretty much common knowledge that there's no way to police everyones personal lns requests in the middle of mass pvp, you simply kill everyone until that "force" calls lns as a whole.

[Humerox]

guilds will have to police their own members...if you look at it another way if some random newb calls guild LNS and other guild members screw it up it's all FFA after that, right?

[daasgoot]

i ran into a situation where a holocaust guy tried calling LNS just to avoid pvp or maybe to throw me off while attacking him. I checked the leaderboards and ooc and previous YT and he hadn't died to PVP within the last 24 hours.

Also was double backstabbed in DL by a holocaust guy that had just called force LNS in DL. I saw him coming but i just sat down because i assumed he was leaving the zone(was right by FV ZL). due to low mana and the double BS i plugged, he then camped my plug for 30 minutes.

so my policy is... if you are wearing your gear(and a holocaust tag), i will kill you no matter what you say. If i get in trouble by staff, i don't really give a fuck.

[dontbanpls]

Originally Posted by daasgoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i ran into a situation where a holocaust guy tried calling LNS just to avoid pvp or maybe to throw me off while attacking him. I checked the leaderboards and ooc and previous YT and he hadn't died to PVP within the last 24 hours.

Also was double backstabbed in DL by a holocaust guy that had just called force LNS in DL. I saw him coming but i just sat down because i assumed he was leaving the zone(was right by FV ZL). due to low mana and the double BS i plugged, he then camped my plug for 30 minutes.

so my policy is... if you are wearing your gear(and a holocaust tag), i will kill you no matter what you say. If i get in trouble by staff, i don't really give a fuck.

Damn dude some holo member who doesn't play anymore kills ya once for not calling LNS and now you have gone full on retarded

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Ragnaros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your already raiding KUNARK dragons with 80 people and now u want uncontested velious? leave this thread

Oh no ya don't. We're just saying that if you don't have a force that can attempt the mob (like 2 guys), you can't just go up and dispel shit and dunk on every raid. Moving on to the next point.

Originally Posted by zacharion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a few individuals were able to attack raid forces, whoever stating otherwise is wrong simply, on RZ the pnp didn't prohibit a few individuals from interrupting raids, Nirgon you may remember Ascending Dawn members using chetari warder staff on our lower lvls to knock them back and train our raids in TOV. So that said keep it the same.

Velious RZ I believe is exactly where the rule came from. Hunsa and others would dispel the statue of Rallos Zek basically guaranteeing a wipe. Originally a suspension went out for this incident to Hunsa because it was ruled as intentionally causing experience loss to a player (violation of PNP). Once the raid disruptions of 1-4 people became rampant, this was put in place during Ozuri's reign of martial law on RZ as head CSR. It is necessary for server health and is a policy that recreates the classic experience.


I mean how does anyone plan on killing anything that can be slowed in Velious (some of these things take like 5-6 attempts to get one to stick) when it takes but 1 click of a golem wand or enchanter pell to wipe everyone at pretty much any point after the engage?

What this rule also mandates is if the enemy force does have at least what appears to be a capable force that you can bow out and let them take their free shot.

Now, this is fine for Venril because every time either side has showed up to disrupt, they've had a force capable of killing the mob (all disruptions of encounter have resulted in basically a kill right after).

This is something that is going to swing both ways with raid targets that don't take 30 seconds to kill anymore. I highly suggest unless you are campaigning for a guild of 5 guys who can play 24-7 to dispel raid targets that this rule gets a look.

We used to legalize corpse camping here, have xp loss on death and boy was it "blue as fuck" when those were taken away... but he population has risen.

Meanwhile this most of this same crowd is completely against item loot. Who is blue as fuck now? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[daasgoot]

Originally Posted by dontbanpls [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Damn dude some holo member who doesn't play anymore kills ya once for not calling LNS and now you have gone full on retarded

whaaaat?

this makes no sense. maybe re-read my post.

[Nirgon]

A request to forum goers: can you talk about male pattern baldness, large women and Home Alone in any of the other threads besides this one being spammed with that stuff

[daasgoot]

Originally Posted by daasgoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i ran into a situation where a holocaust guy tried calling LNS just to avoid pvp or maybe to throw me off while attacking him. I checked the leaderboards and ooc and previous YT and he hadn't died to PVP within the last 24 hours.

Also was double backstabbed in DL by a holocaust guy that had just called force LNS in DL. I saw him coming but i just sat down because i assumed he was leaving the zone(was right by FV ZL). due to low mana and the double BS i plugged, he then camped my plug for 30 minutes.

so my policy is... if you are wearing your gear(and a holocaust tag), i will kill you no matter what you say. If i get in trouble by staff, i don't really give a fuck.

i have also been bind camped, and had LNS ignored in the past by holocaust members.

so its laughable for staff or holocaust players to have any expectation of me honoring an LNS called by holo.

however, any LNS calls by unguilded/fresh/redrum etc.. i will honor.

[Crazycloud]

These LnS rules are correct. Playing on SZ made me happy to avoid all these rules but since we are on RZ rules...... i guess, rules are rules.

[fred schnarf]

as a rallos zek player i can 100% confirm that even tho you can pull up some posts with clearly posted rules, gm's never interfered with raids, bind camping /qing exp death SKS, scams, scumbagging and training

you were on your own on live.