Bregan D’Aerth could be the guild for you?

[Cecily]

Yeah I'm calling BS on "giving" Europa a shot. They were spooked into a rushed attempt, hence FTE + CoTH reinforcements. That's how TMO and IB raid. The fact that Europa even tried to pull that off is admirable, but that's just fucked up that those horrible tactics are what EQ is in Class R now. WTG BDA. Competitive raiding sucks and you shit up the one safe haven on the server, Class R.

[Blaza]

Originally Posted by Bohab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually BDA "lord of the sock" was beaten at this coth race... nobody *let* anything happen.

My question was never answered... why do BDA and Taken avoid competing against each other?

Its pretty easy to track at work. With multiple monitors. Set up a macro.

I did all the tracking yesterday, took smoke breaks, left for an hour to get lunch...didn't prevent me from working and at most was a minor inconvenience.

[Anichek]

Originally Posted by Bohab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually BDA "lord of the sock" was beaten at this coth race... nobody *let* anything happen.

My question was never answered... why do BDA and Taken avoid competing against each other?

At the onset of the fall of the Rotation, we were locked out on different mobs. The Rotation was structured that way so that we could assist on 24 hour coverage (pre-"dark times") to help ensure Class R mobs stayed Class R.

Naturally, when the Rotation fell, we only had a few mobs that we had overlapping availability for both guilds. We did both compete on CT (the first non-rotated mob) and Sev (who waited until through the entire night, and we abandoned it overnight), though (and potentially more than that, those are just fresh in my memory).

The lockouts will make it so we can only compete with Taken directly 1/3 of the time, if you throw all other guilds out of the mix.

It's not avoidance or collaborative efforts, it's the way Class R was designed, to ensure no one guild could monopolize content in that Class.

[Bohab]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sever rules, we were locked out on different mobs, we still competed on the ones we weren't locked out on.

Right... so Taken and BDA will just happen to be locked out on the major targets so they will never have to compete against each other.

[Anichek]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I'm calling BS on "giving" Europa a shot. They were spooked into a rushed attempt, hence FTE + CoTH reinforcements. That's how TMO and IB raid. The fact that Europa even tried to pull that off is admirable, but that's just fucked up that those horrible tactics are what EQ is in Class R now. WTG BDA. Competitive raiding sucks and you shit up the one safe haven on the server, Class R.

You are disregarding the other half of the equation - both sides of the table were far apart on discussions. Paint broader strokes, though....

...but spot on with the assessment - it's not always who gets FTE first, it's who's actually prepped FOR that FTE, and they jumped the gun. I wasn't even there, but it sounds like it was a close race on deployment and had they had a few more people down before pulling the trigger, they probably would have had it.

[Blaza]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I'm calling BS on "giving" Europa a shot. They were spooked into a rushed attempt, hence FTE + CoTH reinforcements. That's how TMO and IB raid. The fact that Europa even tried to pull that off is admirable, but that's just fucked up that those horrible tactics are what EQ is in Class R now. WTG BDA. Competitive raiding sucks and you shit up the one safe haven on the server, Class R.

Eh its a colloquialism. More accurately would be that we didn't leapfrog them on the way to engage.

Honestly who cares. Trak died for the quadrillionth time. Half the BPs can't be given away.

RnF makes the work day fly by.

[Anichek]

Originally Posted by Bohab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right... so Taken and BDA will just happen to be locked out on the major targets so they will never have to compete against each other.

Stop being obtuse - Taken and BDA didn't create the ruleset that governs Class R mob availability and lockouts.

We have and will compete with each other when we are not both on lockout, so 1/3 of the time.

[Blaza]

Originally Posted by Bohab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right... so Taken and BDA will just happen to be locked out on the major targets so they will never have to compete against each other.

Bit tinfoil hatish. At some point BDA and Taken will be locked out on the same mobs, ensuring that a spawn can be contested without the two of them present.

[Argh]

We want to throw out the rotation to prepare everyone for Velious through competition, but we will agree to not compete with one another.

--BDA, Taken, Divinity

[Bohab]

Originally Posted by Anichek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stop being obtuse - Taken and BDA didn't create the ruleset that governs Class R mob availability and lockouts.

We have and will compete with each other when we are not both on lockout, so 1/3 of the time.

I'll believe it when I see it.