Star Trek Beyond

[Filthy_Pagan]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I watched all of ds9 in order, and it was like a soap opera 'as the station turns'.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by stormlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nerds are the reason Star Trek has a name. Otherwise it'd be like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d96cjJhvlMA

Compare that to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nkegWQe1ZM

Or my favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW7neKZFKE0

Every trailer for a big movie has to be full of action because that's what most people want.

You'll never see a Star Trek MOVIE do this for almost 45 minutes (a full episode):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfdRVtIyFQc

Here's some more action from that episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHHg36yXL7Y

That's because TV audiences are NOT the same thing as movie audiences. The only reason those original Star Trek movies were anything like Star Trek was because of their big following.Things have changed since then.

there are X nerds.. there are XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX normals who want to suck JJ abrams dick and will want to let him do them in the butt after they watch starwars.

it will do extremely well

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've seen everything except the 1972 animated series. I would agree that wrath of khan and first contact are some of the best movies.

Since we're discussing series in here, how about that enterprise theme song. Awful. A few years ago I made this to demonstrate how nearly any song is better than the official one.

I'll always give them a pass for it thanks to the In a Mirror Darkley OP

[Madbad]

Captain Janeway best captain IMO

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there are X nerds.. there are XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX normals who want to suck JJ abrams dick and will want to let him do them in the butt after they watch starwars.

it will do extremely well

Don't get me wrong. I LOVED Speed. I LOVED Terminator. I like action films. But look at Star Trek IV or I, not II. Maybe even III--I've not seen either yet. There's almost no fighting in IV. Yet IV was my favorite as a kid growing up. When I tried to watch Star Trek The Motion Picture it was always lost on me but still caught my imagination.

I'm not saying the new Star Treks are bad. After viewing hte trailers, I have to say they're what they're. But don't pretend for a second TOS is the same thing. There were episodes in TOS where almost nothing fast happens. Some seriously weird ones! Maybe a punch here and there, but that was it. The rest was slow motion compared to Fast and Furious. There're some TOS episodes with more action, but you still shouldn't be comparing them to Fast and Furious like you were.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by stormlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't get me wrong. I LOVED Speed. I LOVED Terminator. I like action films. But look at Star Trek IV, not II. There's almost no fighting in IV. Yet that was my favorite as a kid growing up.

I think in the movies era home boy really started believing in humanism and you saw the change that drove him to push for the humanist TNG that we all think is the startrek motus oporandi

During the development of TNG he wanted NO conflict, pretty interesting, the writers had a hard time trying to figure out how to tell a story if everyone in the future were perfect.

He was taken off the show at the end of season 2 and thats when they were able to change the direction a bit and make it the series we all know and love (dont get me wrong i love all seasons of TNG, but you cant argue that 1 & 2 are not pretty bad and VERY derivative of the old series even though he wanted them to be so different)

Also recently heard a theory that BLEW my fucking mind, and was ashamed I didnt come up with it.

That TNG is a metaphore for Heaven.. Q is god, and everyone lives in peace. The holodeck allows people to live in infinite worlds...

I think its more of a coincidence though, becuse he knew he wanted to make the series his humanist utopia vision, and Q was added on the fly when he was forced to change the pilot into a 2hour episode.

But who knows, maybe at that moment is when he decided to write the show as what heaven really is.

I sure hope its fucking heaven. I can tell you that much, know why? Cus then we get to live in mother fuckin startrek world ahhhh yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis

Cus then we get to

[iruinedyourday]

Also not saying the new movies are the same by the way just that they are what TOS would have evolved into naturally given the same amount of time it's taken for them to evolve into what they are now, speed. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or at the very least, not a bastardization.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Madbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Captain Janeway best captain IMO

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RIP

[Madbad]

LOL Tuvix!

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think in the movies era home boy really started believing in humanism and you saw the change that drove him to push for the humanist TNG that we all think is the startrek motus oporandi

During the development of TNG he wanted NO conflict, pretty interesting, the writers had a hard time trying to figure out how to tell a story if everyone in the future were perfect.

He was taken off the show at the end of season 2 and thats when they were able to change the direction a bit and make it the series we all know and love (dont get me wrong i love all seasons of TNG, but you cant argue that 1 & 2 are not pretty bad and VERY derivative of the old series even though he wanted them to be so different)

Also recently heard a theory that BLEW my fucking mind, and was ashamed I didnt come up with it.

That TNG is a metaphore for Heaven.. Q is god, and everyone lives in peace. The holodeck allows people to live in infinite worlds...

I think its more of a coincidence though, becuse he knew he wanted to make the series his humanist utopia vision, and Q was added on the fly when he was forced to change the pilot into a 2hour episode.

But who knows, maybe at that moment is when he decided to write the show as what heaven really is.

I sure hope its fucking heaven. I can tell you that much, know why? Cus then we get to live in mother fuckin startrek world ahhhh yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis

Cus then we get to

Actually the first seasons of TNG had some real weird episodes and I alwyas liked them. Years later I found out Roddenberry had a lot influence on them and they later hired some new people and introduced more drama into it. I'm ok with the drama, but I was ok with the first two seasons as well. I guess people like you weren't ok with it?

One of my favorites was the one where Picard opens the door and it goes out into space.

EDIT: I just googled and it's 'Where No One Has Gone Before' .

Do you really like Star Trek or just trolling? I've known quite a few who hated TNG for being too fluffy. Are you one of them? Supposedly, the people behind Deep Space Nine were the sort who thought TNG was too fluffy.

And then there're those who hated hte technobabble, including many of hte actors.