Way to raise population

[hurt]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PvP in EQ is not like WoW. We don't have BG's or PvP gear or an honor grind. It's open world PvP over pve. When there's no pve to fight for people stop logging in

I disagree. Pretty much all of the pvp I have been involved in had nothing to do with pve. Just people looking for a bit of a scrap. Friends are a good example, everytime I've had a dust up with <Friends> it was just because both parties were looking for a fight, not loot.

I quit because the pop was at 30people during my playtime, and i could never find pvp. As Bokke mentioned earlier, i would port to all of thr hot spots , encounter nobody and log off.

I think there is a good portion of the server who share this playstyle.

[Kergan]

I think what HB was alluding to was that there is 0 character progression from PVP in a game built almost exclusively around character progression.

[Modus]

Originally Posted by Bokke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On Red currently I can port to every Velious zone, run to KC, run through kael etc, and not find a single person. Simply because there is almost no reason other than simple enjoyment of the game for anyone to be doing things in external zones, everyone already has a stockpile of 4 twinks worth of gear and is getting no drop items that are better than anything they can self farm.

People tend to have rose-tinted glasses for games from their past. Velious was the beginning of the end for EverQuest greatness - it made 90% of old content and itemization obsolete and trivial, while relegated everyone to 60-man zerg raids and faction grinds (how fun!!).

On SZ, PVP effectively ceased after the release of Velious. PVP imbalances from Kunark were only exacerbated.

[krazyGlue]

Voted no

[Drakaris]

Originally Posted by Modus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People tend to have rose-tinted glasses for games from their past. Velious was the beginning of the end for EverQuest greatness - it made 90% of old content and itemization obsolete and trivial, while relegated everyone to 60-man zerg raids and faction grinds (how fun!!).

On SZ, PVP effectively ceased after the release of Velious. PVP imbalances from Kunark were only exacerbated.

SZ was released after velious I'm pretty sure.

[Modus]

Looong time ago. Was it activated on release?

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by iiNGloriouS [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by hurt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree. Pretty much all of the pvp I have been involved in had nothing to do with pve. Just people looking for a bit of a scrap. Friends are a good example, everytime I've had a dust up with <Friends> it was just because both parties were looking for a fight, not loot.

I quit because the pop was at 30people during my playtime, and i could never find pvp. As Bokke mentioned earlier, i would port to all of thr hot spots , encounter nobody and log off.

I think there is a good portion of the server who share this playstyle.

that's why there's no pvp though, there's no reward or motivation for it beyond a player-run leaderboard that's down all the time and only records like 70% of kills anyway. zero penalty for pvp. last time i was on everquest i loot and scooted across 6 zones because the game allows me to.

if there was motivation for pvp, there would be more people seeking it out beyond the same 50 or whatever sickos currently play red.

[Zill]

I fully endorse this idea because I'd like to get my phat lewts off of Red stat

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Drakaris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SZ was released after velious I'm pretty sure.

Yes, SZ was released in Velious and it was pretty good up through Luclin. PoP is what finished that server off, evil was able to completely block out the elemental planes (where you started getting meaningful gear upgrades) by training the RZ flag event. The server did see a little resurgence of competition when the Legends server opened, allowing good/neutral team to essentially buy flagging for those zones via server transfer and then come back.