Police Officers II

[Aba to the cab]

The reason there are so many bad cops out there is due to improper training, they'll take anyone who can pass the PT segment of their recruitment phase. They're normal, average, everyday people that are indoctrinated to be "reactionary" and are held less accountable if something goes wrong.

If the average police officer fucks up he isn't liable the department is, they settle a lawsuit and put the officer on suspension or transfer him out, he will never be fully accountable for any actions he does while on-duty which opens up the floodgates for several acts of corruption and an authoritative demeanor.

I think the recruitment process should be more exclusive and that each department should be required to have community liaisons to establish their own rulesets and regulations within each jurisdiction, with the ability to garnish wages, suspend, and remove officers that don't behave as expected thus allowing high levels of transparency within the dept and community in question.

[Aba to the cab]

Think of it this way, a majority of any force especially a small town force is composed of people who skid by in high school with a D/C average, who prior to being on the force never held any weight intellectually nor physically and now they're given full authority over the community in question. I knew police officers that were running with a 8th grade reading level, who had no training in race relations, who was so disconnected with the community in terms of current events it was painful listening to him.

Many officers and jail CO's were sub-par students with little to no understanding of ethics and government, who went straight into the marine corp because no other option was available. They picked up the job as being an officer of the law because it's a government position and it's Federal law to give veterans of any status preference over anyone else, which is odd because soldiers are some of the most reactionary people on the planet due to the nature of their job.

[Aba to the cab]

I'll leave you with this though:

"fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen." [Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. Ct. of Ap., 1981)]

[xshayla701]

The important parts:

Originally Posted by Aba to the cab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reason there are so many bad cops out there is due to improper training, they'll take anyone who can pass the PT segment of their recruitment phase. They're normal, average, everyday people that are indoctrinated to be "reactionary" and are held less accountable if something goes wrong.

Originally Posted by Aba to the cab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think of it this way, a majority of any force especially a small town force is composed of people who skid by in high school with a D/C average, who prior to being on the force never held any weight intellectually nor physically and now they're given full authority over the community in question.

trulyfe, although by my standards the "normal, average" person doesn't make C-D averages in HS. regardless, why isn't atleast a bachelors degree required?

[Aba to the cab]

Originally Posted by xshayla701 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The important parts:
trulyfe, although by my standards the "normal, average" person doesn't make C-D averages in HS. regardless, why isn't atleast a bachelors degree required?

They do give courses in Law enforcement, criminology, and homeland security at most colleges, but the people that major in those subjects don't apply for patrolman or traffic cop. They mostly go to work in crime labs, state offices, and or use the degree as leverage to apply for law school.

[Heartbeats]

Anyone who has seen the movie Cocaine Cowboys, they talk about bringing blow into Florida in the 1970's, and having cops actually transport the coke in squad cars. It's been awhile since I've seen it, but one of the guys who was overseeing transport into the country mentioned that he was a 20something kid making $50k/week, while the salary for a police officer in Florida at that time was $15k/year. Basically, being a cop was and still is a shit job that doesn't pay well enough. Because the pay sucks, especially given the line of work, where you could be putting your life on the line at any given moment, anyone who is qualified (i.e. intelligent, with a decent moral compass) would rather work somewhere else. So, the qualifications have to be lowered, and you attract a bunch of retarded scum who can't get a better job, and are more than willing to abuse their position of authority to get more than just their trash salary out of it. There's alot more to be said, but I have to go get my cookies out of the oven and go to this Christmas party, so I'll leave that for later.

[Aba to the cab]

At the least the credentials for applying to be a patrolman

• Two-year degree from an accredited university
• maintain a 3.0 GPA or higher during those two-years
• 1-year observational externship at a local jail as a C/O
• completely free of misdemeanors and felonies including juvenile record
• Ability to pass yearly classes involving race relations, ethics, and law
• strenuous psychological testing by THREE third-party sources
• Bi-monthly board reviews with 100% transparency

Upon hiring you must sign a contract for weekly urine screens testing for alcohol and drugs.

Another thing they should do is take away, take-home squad cars and those other bullshit benefits at the cost of taxpayers. City vehicles are city property not the officers personal 7-11 munchies cruiser, so they may only use the squad-car while on duty.

[Rangerboy]

BTW, in many states including mine (Minnesota), they require at least a 2 year degree to become a police officer. Those who have the two year degrees struggle to find jobs and rarley get one within the first year or two. It isnt the way they are trained, cuz I have a two year degree in Law enforcement and it was very good. Its just who the person is behind the power they hold. I would say 95% of police officers are good people, and 5% are mentally ill. AND it is that way in every job. Dont tell me you havent had an asshole employee at a hospital, Walmart..ect..

[Aba to the cab]

Originally Posted by Heartbeats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone who has seen the movie Cocaine Cowboys, they talk about bringing blow into Florida in the 1970's, and having cops actually transport the coke in squad cars. It's been awhile since I've seen it, but one of the guys who was overseeing transport into the country mentioned that he was a 20something kid making $50k/week, while the salary for a police officer in Florida at that time was $15k/year. Basically, being a cop was and still is a shit job that doesn't pay well enough. Because the pay sucks, especially given the line of work, where you could be putting your life on the line at any given moment, anyone who is qualified (i.e. intelligent, with a decent moral compass) would rather work somewhere else. So, the qualifications have to be lowered, and you attract a bunch of retarded scum who can't get a better job, and are more than willing to abuse their position of authority to get more than just their trash salary out of it. There's alot more to be said, but I have to go get my cookies out of the oven and go to this Christmas party, so I'll leave that for later.

The B-ripple police department pays it's officers 125k a year, where Hasbinbad lives they are paid upwards of 200k a year... Plus they get to take their squad cars home and milk the taxpayers for free gas, and use their badge to get free food, discounts, free rent at upscale apartments etc.

Add all those benefits into their gross pay they're probably making 350k a year, that's more than Ph.D level engineers.

Which is why corruption is so high and cover-ups are common place, if you're getting $200,000 a year with free gas and free food with nothing more than a GED and a small military record you're set for life especially when you retire and milk in HUGE benefits. Most police officers in that bracket know if they were fired and retained the stigma of being a "bad cop" the best job they can get with those credentials is working summer construction for a whopping $11 p/h

[Swishahouse]

Originally Posted by xshayla701 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

trulyfe, although by my standards the "normal, average" person doesn't make C-D averages in HS.

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