It's Time to Start Allowing for Open Naggy/Vox Raids (open letter to Raiders)

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are you stalking me? I haven't been able to post without you antagonizing me for a month now.

When he feels his forum status is threatened by others, that's what he does.

Originally Posted by raato [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wonder how low that number needs to go until server staff wakes up? I sure wish they would wake up soon, since it looks like majority is voting with their feet atm.

I realize you are frustrated with the raid scene on p99, but the admin here has operated as such since the start.

Really it boils down to the players realizing that they control the raid atmosphere here more than anyone else. Not the guides, not Rogean, not Innoruuk and any other EQ deity you might think controls the raid scene here.

If people approached this server in the way Filbus has done here and others have done in the past, opening civil communication up regarding pixels in this manner perhaps people would work together more?

It's a good start anyway, and hopefully people who hold the reins of the raid scene here make it happen. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[raato]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I realize you are frustrated with the raid scene on p99, but the admin here has operated as such since the start.

Really it boils down to the players realizing that they control the raid atmosphere here more than anyone else. Not the guides, not Rogean, not Innoruuk and any other EQ deity you might think controls the raid scene here.

If people approached this server in the way Filbus has done here and others have done in the past, opening civil communication up regarding pixels in this manner perhaps people would work together more?

It's a good start anyway, and hopefully people who hold the reins of the raid scene here make it happen. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have realized that long time ago and that is huge part of the problem. We cannot have nice things if we have few toxic players who break the agreements whenever they see it fits for them or when they get mad at each others for whatever stupid reason. Or when there are guild leaders who won't even sit to the table to have civil conversation unless enforced by GMs. And players have no way for enforcing anything, because of the "play nice policies".

There has been so many rotations and agreements, some more exclusive than others, but still. And all of them have been broken down by greed and toxic players.

But thumps up for this proposal, I really hope it works out!

[Skunkranger]

Fantastic post, got me right in the feels.

[Yasi]

Fantastic Post.

But thanks for the replies too. I just read them and I'll have some hell of an orgsam clicking my "Play Agnarr" button when I get home from work!

[Convict]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aftermath remains quiet.

From what i've seen awakened rarely even bothers with naggy/vox because they don't really need the drops. Maybe when its the only thing in window which hasn't happened in a while since before the first full repop so you rarely see them bother with even naggy and vox is an afterthought.

Aftermath however is full of plat whores who will zerg anything and everything that has loot worth more than 50kpp good luck getting them to agree to this.

[raato]

Originally Posted by Convict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From what i've seen awakened rarely even bothers with naggy/vox because they don't really need the drops. Maybe when its the only thing in window which hasn't happened in a while since before the first full repop so you rarely see them bother with even naggy and vox is an afterthought.

Aftermath however is full of plat whores who will zerg anything and everything that has loot worth more than 50kpp good luck getting them to agree to this.

But havent you heard that those players do not represent Aftermath! Not even when 90% them are officer tagged.

[Crevex]

I won a CoF when i was like 12 years old back in the day on an open naggy raid on Rodcent. I flipped my shit and spammed the zone for a good 30 seconds. Good times. I support this idea.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Convict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From what i've seen awakened rarely even bothers with naggy/vox because they don't really need the drops. Maybe when its the only thing in window which hasn't happened in a while since before the first full repop so you rarely see them bother with even naggy and vox is an afterthought.

Aftermath however is full of plat whores who will zerg anything and everything that has loot worth more than 50kpp good luck getting them to agree to this.

I suspect it's middle tier "casual" raid guilds that are more of the problem than A/A when it comes to lower tier raid mobs being socked.

It seems more often than not, it's not top tier dragon raiding guilds who are cockblocking lower tier dragons and epic mob spawns, it's your family-friendly zerg raid guilds doing it.

I don't see how A/A is thirsting over lvl 52 dragon loots, even if Bladestoppers are highly touted, how many have they already farmed by this point?

Too bad there isn't a running list of who kills what at all times regarding raid mobs. It would really be telling exactly who the greediest actually are.

[William_Munny15]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKZmqjvUE0 =(

[planarity]

My first raid on live was an open naggy raid shortly after velious release

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notice in the 4th picture: sonic bat begins to cast a spell