Scout Roll Agreement 2017

[jpetrick]

Originally Posted by AdrenolineLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure you can. Its called life. There are plenty of rules that plenty of people disagree upon. If you break the rules there's something called "punishment" which enforces said rules, regardless if you agree with them or not.

Not everything in life is resolved with a "unanimous decision", but rather a majority rules.

Except on p99, where you are playing, the precedent for a player made agreement has always been that all parties involved must agree in order for the agreement to be valid. Either get a GM to make a rule or get all parties involved to agree.

I see your forum join date is 2017. I'm assuming you are just new to the server and haven't been around to know these things. Easy mistake, happy to educate you.

[LiQuid]

Originally Posted by jpetrick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see your forum join date is 2017. I'm assuming you are just new to the server and haven't been around to know these things. Easy mistake, happy to educate you.

How does it feel to be this outneckbearded Adrenaline?

[Fasttimes]

Don't fall into Chodney's trap. 4x 24k final offer. When green comes out manastone price will plummet on future gains so sell me your scout today.

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by jpetrick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

An agreement is only enforceable if all parties involved agree to it. You can't enforce terms of a contract upon someone who does not sign and agree to the terms.

True, but I think if we have a thread in server chat where many people agree, you can point to that and say "if you roll you agree to those terms." Lets say theres no agreement listed, and AM stretch it and say "hey I won the roll but I want to sell my loot rights." Ok, fine. What if some other guild wins the roll and says "hey I don't have any factioned toons, so another guildie is going to turn in for me." What would AM do in that case? They'd probably be pissed, but for players who have multiple toons it's a lot easier for them to keep some factioned toons versus other players who may not.

[AdrenolineLove]

So your only defense is to attack my length on the server lol. Man you sure got me! I concede, deleting the entire post!

Maybe you missed the point of this - to get a GM to make this a rule.

Cant wait to out roll you at scout. GG.

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by jpetrick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except on p99, where you are playing, the precedent for a player made agreement has always been that all parties involved must agree in order for the agreement to be valid. Either get a GM to make a rule or get all parties involved to agree.

I see your forum join date is 2017. I'm assuming you are just new to the server and haven't been around to know these things. Easy mistake, happy to educate you.

Ya, but if at the start of the roll someone declares that the rules are "Your roll, Your tools, Your disc, /random 1000". And you then roll, you have consented to the rules, otherwise, if you have issue with them you should have brought it up BEFORE you rolled.

Therefore, if the rules are stated by someone BEFORE the roll, and you roll, you have consented to said player made agreement.

Its like being in a group that is alpha rotating gems, if someone says alpha, and no one says otherwise, you cant them ninja loot all the gems and tell them to point to the forum post where the Alpha Loot agreement is outlined and you can "sign up" for it. Thats just stupid logic.

[skarlorn]

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^ server community

[jpetrick]

Originally Posted by Dreenk317 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya, but if at the start of the roll someone declares that the rules are "Your roll, Your tools, Your disc, /random 1000". And you then roll, you have consented to the rules, otherwise, if you have issue with them you should have brought it up BEFORE you rolled.

Therefore, if the rules are stated by someone BEFORE the roll, and you roll, you have consented to said player made agreement.

Its like being in a group that is alpha rotating gems, if someone says alpha, and no one says otherwise, you cant them ninja loot all the gems and tell them to point to the forum post where the Alpha Loot agreement is outlined and you can "sign up" for it. Thats just stupid logic.

You are obviously correct, however the person who created this thread seems to think that his version of the rules is the only rule set that may be used for scout.

[azeth]

No. There is no valid reason to force the turn-in person to loot the disc. Bring your own kill forces.

[Kauh boom]

Still wtb disc