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Old 10-24-2018, 08:18 AM
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Unless you are 60 sk with ntov weps you do 30 dps... 4 of you equals 1 good rogue.
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:40 AM
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Doing around 30dps raid buffed with 34%haste at 56 with sky sword... I don't doubt that the 120dps mentioned is completely false but 50-60 dps with lvl60 and post epic weapons seems credible depending on the mob...
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Old 10-24-2018, 01:21 PM
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Uhhh ... my level 40 paladin does more than 30 dps on dark blue mobs with 34% haste belt and 30% haste buff quickness and a cheap 30/35 velious claidhmore. Buffless (126 base str) it’s still a consistent 18-25.

We’ll see how he does in his 50s but I’m expecting it to be around 50 sustained in the high 50s with a proper 50-60+ % haste buff, higher skill caps and upward-scaling dmg bonus. Don’t get me wrong ... 50dps is not stellar but as I’ve already said it is far from non-contributory for a class that’s designed to get beat on.

For knights this is all highly content specific. DPS potential on xp group trash is not the same as dps potential on high ac and or high level raid mobs. With lower skill caps knights in particular are going to suffer disproportionately more than other melee.
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Old 10-24-2018, 01:24 PM
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On raid bosses...
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Old 10-24-2018, 01:40 PM
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On raid bosses...
A situation that is only relevant for the upper 1% of Everquest content. Super relevant for the p99 neckbeard for sure though. It’s not content where you would expect a knight to shine.

If p99 actually raided content as it was designed, including the crawl and trash clears, Knight dps contribution would be a bit more relevant. As we all know, however, p99 raid guilds are allergic to trash mobs and are addicted to single pulling raid mobs to the zone line.

OP asked is the SK epic is worth it - not this tangent argument. The stats are excellent and the proc is nice. If I were capable of getting a proper velious raid weapon I’d personally skip it. If not and you can manage it, the epic is very nice. This side bar discussion of “you’ll never be a real dps so disregard ratio” is simply absurd. Dps is dps. Knights are capable of more dps than they are given credit for. Dps classes are frequently given more credit than their performance deserves - especially at the group level.
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Old 10-24-2018, 02:47 PM
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I have a 53 damage weapon with a better ratio, a better skill cap, 41% worn haste, vog sham buffs and a sexy tail and don't ever hit those numbers unless I'm discing (which you dont have). Sorry I caught you lying lol. Next time you wanna whip your dick out you better have your story straight.

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Draco, my 56 ogre war consistently hits 317 with the twisted steel while soloing.

My 51 Ogre SK hits upper 280s with spear of dawn. When I'm fighting undead, the 125 per tick DoT makes my dmg output stupid. Swap to my vyemm sledge and it's consistent 130s, with the 218 proc going off 4-5 times per mob. I will say it feels like I miss waaay more on the SK, but that's probably due to a 130 or so difference in dex?

SK isn't a "DPS class" but that doesn't mean you gotta lie down. Dots, procs and stupid ratio weaps make it passable.

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Old 10-24-2018, 05:17 PM
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Draco, my 56 ogre war consistently hits 317 with the twisted steel while soloing.

My 51 Ogre SK hits upper 280s with spear of dawn. When I'm fighting undead, the 125 per tick DoT makes my dmg output stupid. Swap to my vyemm sledge and it's consistent 130s, with the 218 proc going off 4-5 times per mob. I will say it feels like I miss waaay more on the SK, but that's probably due to a 130 or so difference in dex?

SK isn't a "DPS class" but that doesn't mean you gotta lie down. Dots, procs and stupid ratio weaps make it passable.

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You miss more because your offense and weapon skillcaps are lower by level and by class, and you are comparing a piercing weapon to a 2hs. You are going to have more minimum hits and more misses due to those two hardwired aspects.

Idk what your point is about your big hits, thats irrelevant if you're talking about consistent dps. My parse with TSBS on HoT mobs is usually around 60, which is why I rarely use it to dps since Tunare blade and Dagas parse better.[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 10-24-2018, 05:22 PM
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Draco is just a special kind of nerd with a slight social disorder. I managed to get my epic sub 60 and combined with a pet, I was able to solo velks lab and KC by myself to 60 without a fungi tunic. Raiding stuff that these dudes are talking about will make you lose that nostalgic feeling that allows you to enjoy this project oh so much. Just...don't do it.
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Old 10-24-2018, 05:38 PM
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Raiding stuff that these dudes are talking about will make you lose that nostalgic feeling that allows you to enjoy this project oh so much.
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Old 10-24-2018, 05:57 PM
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Draco is just a special kind of nerd with a slight social disorder. I managed to get my epic sub 60 and combined with a pet, I was able to solo velks lab and KC by myself to 60 without a fungi tunic. Raiding stuff that these dudes are talking about will make you lose that nostalgic feeling that allows you to enjoy this project oh so much. Just...don't do it.
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