Lets be real about P1999 PvP Server - Server Devs

[Hasbinbad]

ITT: guys whine and argue about bullshit a lot.

tl;dr for this thread:

Originally Posted by naez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i dont want to be stuck with fgts I cant kill just because we both worship Quellious

Now stfu. God damn.

[Macken]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you make it an idiot fest like TZVZ and have root land on someone with 1000 magic resist, then it completely dumbs down the game..

1 million magic resist, 1,000 magic resist. I was never able to get over 550...on any resist. You are truly amazing.

The reason you got root griefed off server was because you were too dumb to know what to do. If only Ruin hadn't fallen apart at the very beginning of SZ root wouldn't have griefed you. So OP that root.

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by Jigga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dont agree.

Druids suck as healers. they can heal for 350 in classic and 600 in kunark. Paladins suck at healing too.

Your good side has more healing classes doesnt mean they will actually have more healers played.

Ok dude, there is a saying that if you're going to disagree with someone's solution to a problem and don't have a solution of your own, then whatever you're saying is useless. Personally, I can't think of any way possible to give the non-evil team any more advantage without it looking very lopsided to non-evils. So go ahead and post whatever your solution is. Try not to make it some insane plan like this Abacab guy that would take a year to code for and cause the server not to come out till 2013.

Originally Posted by Jigga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wermacht was part of a massive zerg that greatly outnumbered heresy but heresy was way more organized and shit stomped Wermachts guild.

This quoted text above is hilarious. I was in Holocaust, a guild with like 5 people. You probably remember the name. There was absolutely no way in hell to stop Heresy from taking over the server with our tiny numbers so me and Maverix joined Fish Bait out of pity so Heresy didn't have free reign over the server. Lethdar/whorella came sometimes too.

Shortly after, Heresy was eating dirt in Plane of Hate, Vox, and a few other places even after mass recruiting on the server, guilds like ROFLCOPTER. Yea, they wiped us sometimes, but the split wasn't very different, probably 50/50 or 60/40. I didn't put the guild together in the first place. I just joined to help them stop Heresy from gaying up the server.

[Hasbinbad]

This thread is a bigger circlejerk than the original Red99 crew in their first 3 days..

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by Macken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reason you got root griefed off server

Lol? Root was fine on original EQ Live PvP servers. I'm not the one that wants it changed. It's up to you to try and make up some kind of sad excuse for why you think root should land on this server when it didn't on EQ live.

Why is every one of your posts like this?:

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Originally Posted by Macken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it took me 8 days to figure it out.
Make a cleric on the same team you are attacking. I had a cleric on both other teams.

This is a 1 player per IP server. You're going to make a cleric on the opposite team of your main and do what?

[Macken]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't care if damage spells land more, but there's a reason crowd control spells don't work on EQ Live PvP, because it's overpowered and removes all the skill from the game..

Crowd control always worked on live.... on people who had relatively low MR. The threshold that you and alot of others try to insinuate just isn't factual.
I was still getting rooted by evens commonly with up to 200 mr.(SZ went through spell changes, we are talking till its end, not just the first 45 days that you only remember). Of course i got rooted with 550 mr too, but not often and not long. Please stop exaggerating to make up for your fail. No one with much knowledge loses to root. I'm not trying to ride you or upset you, I'm just not going to let you make up stuff continuously without injecting reality.

Having to deal with strengths and weaknesses, the offense and defense of a fight as it ebbs and flows from your advantage to his takes skill if eq has any. Mindlessly chasing down int casters who do nothing but run until they are out of HPS removes any skill from the game for the melee, which just coincidently fits your playstyle? I guess you don't realize that it's obvious what you want.

Now the int caster has skill.... at running.

Root is only an obstacle to the noob. Stop trying to dumb down eq and make it so melees need no skill or knowledge.

[Jigga]

It really doesnt matter what i suggest. Team, no team. I know VZTZ peeps are just going to get their shit together and preplan before the server is released.

Look at heresy and TDT, which had alot of Heresy and was the number 1 guild on vztz in 3.0.

Xant troll, Gnar Troll, Rexx Ogre, Zzoj Troll, Blud troll, Tonomar Ogre, Letsjoe de, boom de, tweene de, kaen de, melveny de, azuur de. Littlegyno troll, Saru ogre, House de

The only two players I can think of in Heresy that would have to pick a different class to stay evil would be Lasher and Skunky, pretty much the only two main druids on vztz. P99 druid differs so much from vztz so druids are almost a joke on p99 as they stand for pvp use.

Your bluebie team pvp it will just implement code that will lead to annoying frustration. Heresy/TDT will go evil. Another guild thats organized will go good or evil. If good they will be out numbered. If they go evil then it leaves the good side open for a shittier guild to be the #1 good guild and then you will have 2 Evil guilds shit stomping the good guild and then the two evil guids will just poopsock the raid mob between the toom of them

[Macken]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most people know both of those. Darkenbane was in UO too. It depends if you're old enough to have played UO or not. I was in ToW too btw.

Relatively NO ONE knows Darkenbane or Ruin from SZ. I always forget about them until someone in one of them tries to say they played on SZ during Kunark all the way till the end--who saw it ALL go down. Attempting to use that BS to claim credibility while lobbying to throw out root because he was not good enough to figure out how to escape, thus ruining the balance and skill dynamic between melee and int caster.
You don't resist root till you get top end magic gear for each expansion. If you resist root in Classic, upon kunark and new roots, you get rooted next day son. Not until you build your MR up further will you start resisting it again, then when velious comes out...

ROOT > wehrmacht

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by Macken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Crowd control always worked on live.... on people who had relatively low MR. The threshold that you and alot of others try to insinuate just isn't factual.
I was still getting rooted by evens commonly with up to 200 mr.(SZ went through spell changes, we are talking till its end, not just the first 45 days that you only remember).

For the 500th time. This P1999 PvP server is not based in Planes of Power. The max it can open with is Kunark and will probably only have Velious as max expansion and maybe custom content afterwards?

Since it seems like the only time you ever played Sullon Zek was during Planes of Power, all of this stuff you're talking about has no relevance to this server.

Originally Posted by Macken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course i got rooted with 550 mr too

You sure as hell don't get rooted with 500MR in classic era PvP. You're practically 100% invulnerable to it somewhere around 100-120MR. Stop trying to apply Planes of Power bullshit to a non-planes of power server. Resists were never changed until post-velious.

Originally Posted by Jigga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It really doesnt matter what i suggest. Team, no team. I know VZTZ peeps are just going to get their shit together and preplan before the server is released.

Xant troll, Gnar Troll, Rexx Ogre, Zzoj Troll, Blud troll, Tonomar Ogre, Letsjoe de, boom de, tweene de, kaen de, melveny de, azuur de. Littlegyno troll, Saru ogre, House de

This isn't a server for just TZVZ people. It isn't a server for Heresy. There's no reason to design the server around them. If Heresy wants to make a stupid choice and choose the same team as whatever other large guild is on the server and have nobody to fight, then maybe they're dumbasses? I dunno?

If that indeed does happen, one group will eventually stop being jackasses and go to the other team.

[Macken]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol? Root was fine on original EQ Live PvP servers. I'm not the one that wants it changed. It's up to you to try and make up some kind of sad excuse for why you think root should land on this server when it didn't on EQ live.

I don't want it changed... you do.. It's up to you to prove it didn't land on live, that you were resisting root from day one and that it takes skill to chase down an int caster who can't do anything but run until he dies. Better yet, explain how that is fun or balanced. I chase...you run... fun?

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is every one of your posts like this?:.

Because i've seen what happens when i assume the coders have more common sense than to be trolled by a melee who wants even more of an advantage over casters than they already historicly had.

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure the 10,000 Sullon Zek players over 10 years would have figured out how to do it if you were correct.

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a 1 player per IP server. You're going to make a cleric on the opposite team of your main and do what?

Reading comprehension is your friend.