New ToV rules

[Arkanjil]

It’s an interesting, bold move. We’ll see how it pans out. The raid scene was just getting interesting with Tempest all but gone and Core/BG and AG competing in TOV full time. It’s unfortunate we didn’t get to enjoy that competition longer. We actually got along quite well with Tempest out of the picture.

It’ll be interesting to see how many people leave the server due to this, especially when other servers, like Classic WoW, comes out. I’ll keep playing here, like I have since the server started, but hope I don’t have too many pals leave over this change.

I give this iteration of raid rules 6 months before it’s changed again for some other rule set.

[Mblake1981]

Correction: there is no way to keep it L33t and tight. You would have to erase the memory of people who played and delete all of the info gathered. It's what blows my mind how some managed to figure out all of the secrets and get all of the loot within a small time frame.

It can never be the same. Will pantheon be like that? I doubt it considering the influences of todays gamers. That is requesting for a player like me to be a total scrub POS again. Stand 1 inch tall.

Originally Posted by Arkanjil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’ll be interesting to see how many people leave the server due to this, especially when other servers, like Classic WoW, comes out. I’ll keep playing here, like I have since the server started, but hope I don’t have too many pals leave over this change.

If classic WoW appeals to a player its probably best to let them go home (be happy) and remove the influence from the classic EQ player base.

[azeth]

Obviously I'm not a raider anymore, but I don't see how this isn't a weight off peoples shoulders. You're now guaranteed pixels without 2:32 am batphones. Beyond that you now get to crawl ToV.

Also, consider do you need a 200 member guild anymore?

[Solist]

What about the Australians, Asians, Euros?

A guild of 59 or 200. Both are going to have a distribution of folks around the world who won’t be able to do scheduled raids for US prime.

Can’t we go back to fucking Canada over instead?

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can’t we go back to fucking Canada over instead?

And over the hills from the north they came, covered in syrup and riding moose of battle.

Lobatt Blue! was their cry of war

[zarza]

The result of a lack of effort is less valuable. Drop the server's raid protection value. We have competed with other guilds, spent 30 to 40 hours a week together, and won and lost. Rotation raid makes some guild efforts worthless. Imagine that everyone could easily get items from state to state without any special effort, so they never waited 12 to 24 hours to win, nor did they prepare the items. And they've never been to a test server for a practice. I saw this and felt communism. Not everyone is equal.
You have to want, try, and practice. If the guild doesn't have the power to compete, it's better to just build up the power and compete together.
It's like putting an Instant Dungeon system on p99. Your p99 proud contents are dying. Try and achieve. P99 is not North Korea.

[Mytral]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're now guaranteed pixels

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by zarza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The result of a lack of effort is less valuable. Drop the server's raid protection value. We have competed with other guilds, spent 30 to 40 hours a week together, and won and lost. Rotation raid makes some guild efforts worthless. Imagine that everyone could easily get items from state to state without any special effort, so they never waited 12 to 24 hours to win, nor did they prepare the items. And they've never been to a test server for a practice. I saw this and felt communism. Not everyone is equal.
You have to want, try, and practice. If the guild doesn't have the power to compete, it's better to just build up the power and compete together.
It's like putting an Instant Dungeon system on p99. Your p99 proud contents are dying. Try and achieve. P99 is not North Korea.

I agree but I also don't belong in the top guilds.

P99 is a museum with a bricked off exit door. The players here are torn between what can function in this environment and what is "classic". The players are here because of that old EQ pull but nothing will replicate that other than a time machine.

Nothing you say here is wrong within the context of these walls, we have players that don't remember socking and doing these things to win so it conflicts with memories which are part of this servers aim. At best you get a bastard compromise.

Yeah, I am let down that our age group is no longer a market focus and games like EQ, not specifically EQ, will never be made again so we can all move on. It happens.

Cheers! 30 somethings

[Nikkanu]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You think it takes effort? lol wot mate? 60% of AM log in for batphones only. They're by far the most casual players here.

5 of them like the competition. The rest are ultrabutthurt as now they cant be casual, they have to pay attention for 3 hours to kill everything once every 2 months. Not 20mins at a time 40x a week.

This was the appeal of AM for casuals like myself that work for a living. I could just log in when I had time to kill a dragon with my elf pals. This was the only thing that gave me and many others a reason to keep logging in. Now you will have to schedule your life around “TOV Day” or rarely ever get to raid. This hurts the smaller casual guilds even more than it hurts the big guilds, they just don’t realize it yet. Terrible change.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Maxtorpor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I notice no one has started a discussion thread for this... This is a significant change to the server and will most definitely affect every guild involved including pickup raiders like Lord Bobbers.

What are everyone's thoughts on this? Let's keep the discussion kosher.

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