Tunare agreement makes like a tree and leafs

[Legidias]

Look at historical raid agreements, and you'll find AM has been the one to say "lol nah, we arent winning 9/10 of these so Im just gonna back out of the agreeement so it'll be 9.5/10"

[kjs86z]

Tunare / PoG is the only instance of P99 raiding where a rotation is the best possible option.

Forced off-peak-time clears with low numbers is outright cancer.

Get off your fucking high horses already and just be normal for one time in your miserable elf sim lives. Rotate. End of thread.

[Nexii]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didn't AM/AW once try to design a 'rotation' intended to lock all other forces out of growth. It back fired; Aw failed to qualify and some other forces unexpectedly succeeded in qualifying for the rotation so Am/Aw decided the rotation was silly and pulled the carpet out from it.

Am isn't pulling out the carpet from their own agreement again are they?

Was it was designed to lock other forces out of pixels but instead is assisting others getting those pixels and am is once again damage controlling a pixel cannon backfire?

Yea there was a growth rotation between AM and AWK back then. However interest in clearing POG was never that high until Tunare went from 0-3 items to 2-4 items. Essentially a doubling in reward from 1.5 on average to 3. AM did POG like once a month at most in that era and AWK not at all. It was free for others to do most weeks but no one wanted to do it for the amount of reward.

[Nexii]

Originally Posted by kjs86z [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tunare / PoG is the only instance of P99 raiding where a rotation is the best possible option.

Forced off-peak-time clears with low numbers is outright cancer.

Get off your fucking high horses already and just be normal for one time in your miserable elf sim lives. Rotate. End of thread.

It sure is. Being one of two clerics for an off hour clear is pretty miserable.

There used to be more rotations but Awakened abused them for so long that AM as a whole leans against them now...a lot of the newer membership doesn't see the benefits. Plus with the raid scene population exploding by a factor of 3 over the last year, there's fewer pixels than ever to go around. That's mainly what's fuelling the current paradigm of harder competition

[FatherSioux]

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[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Nexii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea there was a growth rotation between AM and AWK back then. However interest in clearing POG was never that high until Tunare went from 0-3 items to 2-4 items. Essentially a doubling in reward from 1.5 on average to 3. AM did POG like once a month at most in that era and AWK not at all. It was free for others to do most weeks but no one wanted to do it for the amount of reward.

A clear + Tunare fight is something that is fun to do like twice a year (though from what I understand the leashing changes mean a full clear isn't strictly necessary?). As you say there is enough Tunare to go round. It's a just shame that forces large enough to kill Tunare are willing to leap frog someone else's clear. It's orders of magnitude worse than leapfrogging, say, SolB.

[Nexii]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A clear + Tunare fight is something that is fun to do like twice a year (though from what I understand the leashing changes mean a full clear isn't strictly necessary?). As you say there is enough Tunare to go round. It's a just shame that forces large enough to kill Tunare are willing to leap frog someone else's clear. It's orders of magnitude worse than leapfrogging, say, SolB.

Tunare is killed every week since the patch to increase her loot. Within 24h or less.

Tactics...well the GMs haven't clarified

[Jimjam]

I maintain only 2 out of those 52 times are permitted to be fun.

[Dillusional]

The agreement was a great deal for paradigm shift and a terrible deal for Aftermath. Why would anyone expect anything different than Aftermath to backing out and then Paradigm Shift being salty about it?

Paradigm Shift could've done a lot of stuff with this earthquake. I heard they went straight to VP like and did their same old thing. Get out there and get some guys. But please refrain from accusations and abuse in ooc, blatant disregard for the rules and ridiculous trains/agroe when your players are in places they shouldn't be.

[rezzie]

• The agreement was proposed to try it out for two weeks to see how it worked.
• Guilds tried it out; Aftermath had concerns about how it was being used.
• No agreement could be reached on revised terms.
• Core/BG/AG attempted a snipe of Tunare after Aftermath spent 6 hours clearing the zone.
• AG makes an RnF to remind everyone who the real bad guys are.