PSA: Your Gnoll Scrolls are Nerfed 50%

[DoodyLich666]

I am fine with competition, I just don’t think that we need accolades for gaming. I think in the end the whole achievement thing actually ends up working to stifle the creativity in games that I think makes mmos fun. It creates a box that you must work within, and if you go outside of it to do something new, you are accused of cheating people from these achievements. I believe that this whole quest nerf debacle proves this point.
It’s fine that there is a race to get to max level fast, but the whole yellow text/ name on p99 wiki thing set up a pretense where it created a “right and wrong” way of going about it.

[douglas1999]

I dunno I think the yellow text server first messages are cool, plenty of them have been non-seal team.

[BiG SiP]

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[Castle2.0]

Originally Posted by Solemnus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't understand what you are referring to. My comment wasn't aimed at you if that's what you thought. P99 = people nerfing classic shit for no good reason.

I guess I just expect the RnF in threads these days and I got my responses ready to go <3

Originally Posted by DutyLich

I am fine with competition, I just don’t think that we need accolades for gaming. I think in the end the whole achievement thing actually ends up working to stifle the creativity in games that I think makes mmos fun. It creates a box that you must work within, and if you go outside of it to do something new, you are accused of cheating people from these achievements. I believe that this whole quest nerf debacle proves this point.

It’s fine that there is a race to get to max level fast, but the whole yellow text/ name on p99 wiki thing set up a pretense where it created a “right and wrong” way of going about it.

I think you got it backwards. I had this idea for a long time and yellow text is not the driver. If you check my sig, you'll see I kind of like to play the game outside the "box". I create my own goals and achievements.

My own yellow text is me saying "Hey me, that was cool! This time it worked out and you did something fun/unique/difficult." The bravado and fake pixel thirst is more trolling the easily trolled. I try to let on... but people stuck in their thinking or don't pay attention.

The Devs are putting an artificial box of what they think is the "appropriate" speed of leveling and the "appropriate" methods of leveling.

They are wrong. But it's their box and they have a right to be wrong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I turned the box upside down to show them what they never looked at on the bottom and they didn't like it. We all did it when half the server bound @ firepots.

Here is EQ if players made different choices.

And that, my friend, is what it's all about: player choice. I made my own choice to set my own goals, and disciplined myself to achieve it. I don't care one way or another what a random simu-elf online has to say about it wanting to add to or take away from it.

Each server (aka each paralell universe of Norrath) has different people making difference choices. Rallo Zek server took down Sleeper. That said something about their players, and the server.

What is the story being told on Green?

Lots of great, small anecdotes of people grouping, raiding, progressing together. That's EQ. But there is also a toxic element at the top.

Also, the freedom of players to tell interesting and meaningful stories in their actions is being met by overreaching deus ex machina seeking to impose its bland will, regurgitating the past. Unfortunately, this makes Norrath less special, less vibrant.

Chase away your storywriters and your storytellers won't have much left to tell. When the stories are gone, people go looking elsewhere for an engaging story.

[DoodyLich666]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dunno I think the yellow text server first messages are cool, plenty of them have been non-seal team.

I accept that I am probably in the minority with my opinion on that. Gaming is more popular, and main stream, than ever, and I bet the achievements have helped it get to this point. I like to play games to scratch my nerd itch, not to gain a sense of accomplishment.
And Castle, I actually see your attempt to level with only quests as a noble endeavor. You found a creative way to level a character, but got nerfed because it would make many try hards sad.

[BiG SiP]

Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess I just expect the RnF in threads these days and I got my responses ready to go <3



I think you got it backwards. I had this idea for a long time and yellow text is not the driver. If you check my sig, you'll see I kind of like to play the game outside the "box". I create my own goals and achievements.

My own yellow text is me saying "Hey me, that was cool! This time it worked out and you did something fun/unique/difficult." The bravado and fake pixel thirst is more trolling the easily trolled. I try to let on... but people stuck in their thinking or don't pay attention.

The Devs are putting an artificial box of what they think is the "appropriate" speed of leveling and the "appropriate" methods of leveling.

They are wrong. But it's their box and they have a right to be wrong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I turned the box upside down to show them what they never looked at on the bottom and they didn't like it. We all did it when half the server bound @ firepots.

Here is EQ if players made different choices.

And that, my friend, is what it's all about: player choice. I made my own choice to set my own goals, and disciplined myself to achieve it. I don't care one way or another what a random simu-elf online has to say about it wanting to add to or take away from it.

Each server (aka each paralell universe of Norrath) has different people making difference choices. Rallo Zek server took down Sleeper. That said something about their players, and the server.

What is the story being told on Green?

Lots of great, small anecdotes of people grouping, raiding, progressing together. That's EQ. But there is also a toxic element at the top.

Also, the freedom of players to tell interesting and meaningful stories in their actions is being met by overreaching deus ex machina seeking to impose its bland will, regurgitating the past. Unfortunately, this makes Norrath less special, less vibrant.

Chase away your storywriters and your storytellers won't have much left to tell. When the stories are gone, people go looking elsewhere for an engaging story.

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[jadier]

Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

.... The bravado and fake pixel thirst is more trolling the easily trolled. I try to let on... but people stuck in their thinking or don't pay attention.

...

Here is EQ if players made different choices.

....

Also, the freedom of players to tell interesting and meaningful stories in their actions is being met by overreaching deus ex machina seeking to impose its bland will, regurgitating the past. Unfortunately, this makes Norrath less special, less vibrant.

Chase away your storywriters and your storytellers won't have much left to tell. When the stories are gone, people go looking elsewhere for an engaging story.

My bravado is trolling, but also my abuse of the free account system is a Freethinking exercise in Great Storytelling, and should be Gaming Legend on par those who killed the Sleeper. I am a serious person whose concerns are legitimate.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by DoodyLich666 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I accept that I am probably in the minority with my opinion on that. Gaming is more popular, and main stream, than ever, and I bet the achievements have helped it get to this point. I like to play games to scratch my nerd itch, not to gain a sense of accomplishment.
And Castle, I actually see your attempt to level with only quests as a noble endeavor. You found a creative way to level a character, but got nerfed because it would make many try hards sad.

Honestly at this stage I think I might be more embarrassed than anything if I was like the first X to 60 or something like that

[Swish]

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Add the gnoll scrolls to a list of quests that were too popular and nerfed, and to nerfed loot due to poor behavior at the camps (seafuries etc).

[Castle2.0]

Originally Posted by jadier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My bravado is trolling, but also my abuse of the free account system is a Freethinking exercise in Great Storytelling, and should be Gaming Legend on par those who killed the Sleeper. I am a serious person whose concerns are legitimate.

Remove the sarcasm and biased interpretation of facts and that is somewhat accurate. Thanks Jaded. But I guess removing sarcasm and bias would delete the post entirely. Could have just quoted me and gave at thumbs up, pal.